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Haswell or Ivybridge-E?

Sudden

Sudden

Sudden

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Well, I was about to order all the parts for brand new build in the next couple of days, my second build ever and the first one being 7 years ago. And I just see this thing about Ivybridge-E.

Is this better than Haswell? I was planning on the i5 4670K. Should I be looking at one of the Ivybridge's instead? Total budget is around £1500 and this is the spec I was planning -

YOUR BASKET
1 x EVGA GeForce GTX 770 SC ACX Dual Bios 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (02G-P4-2776-KR) £329.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £191.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £179.99
1 x Seasonic X-Series 850w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £159.95
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £145.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD2002FAEX) HDD £128.99
1 x Anidees AI-6BS Midi Tower Silenced Case - Black £101.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Silver 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9) £89.99
1 x Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator CPU Cooler £65.99
1 x Samsung SH-224DB/RSMS 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black/Silver/Biege) - Retail £22.99
Total : £1,430.45 (includes shipping : £10.50).

 
It'll be for gaming. The Ivybridge-E won't be more future proof then? I don't mind spending a bit more if a) it'll actually show some benefit; and b) it'll somewhat future-proof the build.
 
Well, you can be in the middle.. get a Ivy-E 4 cores... the 4820k..
probably it is a little bit slower than a 4770k, but you get quad memory channel, more pci-e lanes and can upgrade to a 6 cores in the future.
 
A while ago there was a theory that S2011 was better for multi-gpu rigs - is this still the same?

Wouldn't touch either of the 6-core I-E chips, (think the extra 2 cores would be a complete waste most of the time), but the 4 core offering looks decent enough.
 
Sudden said:
It'll be for gaming. The Ivybridge-E won't be more future proof then? I don't mind spending a bit more if a) it'll actually show some benefit; and b) it'll somewhat future-proof the build.
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Although it's the flagship X79 platform is definitely not future proofing. People that payout for the extra cores and bandwidth know that they're buying into old tech. If it's purely for gaming Haswell makes much more sense.

I'd imagine most people would tell you to hold out till Haswell-E which going by specs is much more inviting. But waiting is for moth wallets. :D
 
MjFrosty said:
Although it's the flagship X79 platform is definitely not future proofing. People that payout for the extra cores and bandwidth know that they're buying into old tech. If it's purely for gaming Haswell makes much more sense.

I'd imagine most people would tell you to hold out till Haswell-E which going by specs is much more inviting. But waiting is for moth wallets. :D
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OK, sounds like Haswell it is. Thanks all!
 
MjFrosty said:
Although it's the flagship X79 platform is definitely not future proofing. People that payout for the extra cores and bandwidth know that they're buying into old tech. If it's purely for gaming Haswell makes much more sense.
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A high end Z87 board isn't much different price wise than a X79 board and 4770K/4820K are priced quite similar. Overclocked up a 4820K is slightly better than a 4770K in latest CPU dependent games going by the reviews in at the moment, added to that X79 has the option of upgrading to a hex core down the line or adding loads of GPU's wheras Z87 cannot do that.

Haswell is a tock architecture which means its replacement due in 2014 will merely be a die shrink and slight IMC boost. Haswell-E that people mention is the replacement for IB-E and will be the same performance difference as IB to Haswell, Haswell-E is estimated for launch late 2014 or sometime 2015
 
ubersonic said:
A high end Z87 board isn't much different price wise than a X79 board and 4770K/4820K are priced quite similar. ...
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But you don't need a high end motherboard to run a 4770K. You can overclock it on motherboards from around £65 and up.

Haswell E on a new socket with DDR4 and (hopefully) 8 cores still seems to be the only foreseeable upgrade for SB-E users.
 
Intel X processors are never more than 1k. Still a lot but not 1.2K. Go Haswell for your requirements.
 
=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
But you don't need a high end motherboard to run a 4770K. You can overclock it on motherboards from around £65 and up.
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Personally think its bonkers to buy a high value CPU and partner it with a cheap motherboard.

Not only are you likely to be getting worse performance out of the CPU than with a moderate to high end mobo, but more likely to have less add on features also not to mention the RAM aspect as well.

Of course its your prerogative, and you can indeed do what you suggest, but in one way its like flushing some of the money you paid for the CPU right down the drain, and you might as well have got a non K or one with less "natural" GHz
 
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