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Haswell owner's, your upgrade path...

Born_2_Kill_83

Born_2_Kill_83

Born_2_Kill_83

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Just wanting to see the people that own 5920/30/60's what your upgrade plan is. Is there now a processor in 2018 your waiting for, did you go for the Skylake earlier in the year - how was the upgrade? or did you just buy a 8700k?

I'm torn, I've been on mine since what feels like an age, I game at 1440p 21:9 100hz, I want to upgrade very soon. Love the 5ghz speeds of the 8700k, but don't like the idea of still only having a 6 core cpu on a z370 9 month life board.

Lets hear your opinions please.
 
I'd take X99 over Z390 any day. Unless the upgrade was free or you could make use of more than 6 cores I wouldn't bother upgrading to anything TBH.
 
I'll be waiting to see that the ryzen refresh has to offer, if it's not much of a improvement then I'll wait for Zen 2. I have my heart set on returning back to Amd but failing that I'll wait and see what comes after coffee lake.

I game at 1440p so at the minute I don't feel the need to change as my rig currently does what I need it to.
 
i dont really see the point in upgrading for games. the only thing i would consider if i was you is a j batch 5960x. i got one recently that does 4.9ghz at 1.35v under water. most do 4.7-4.8ghz. that way you dont need a whole new board as well.
 
Running a 5820k, game at 1440p 165hz, 8700k looks good but gaming at higher than 1080p there probably isn't a lot between them. If i upgrade next year to Ice Lake it will only be if there's a bigger difference in IPC and clock speed. Or if 8 cores go mainstream as rumoured then that might tempt me.

If i avoid Ice Lake/Zen 2 then I'll probably not upgrade until DDR5 comes along.
 
I have two 5820K systems and am very tempted to get a i7 8700K simply for the thrill of 5GHz. But then again I game at 2560x1440 so I probably wouldn't see much of a difference.
I am looking for a 5960X or 6900K for a good price, but if it don't find one soon my patience will probably throw me in the direction of buying the i7 8700K.
 
1080 Ti 4770k / 165hz gsync. sticking with this until 2 years time then i'll buy whatevers top end for mainstream for gaming only, 16 cores ppppft
 
Not on Haswell but short of hardware death I've been planning on holding out for 10nm CPUs before upgrading - bit of an odd one though as I've a preciously correct source claiming Intel is bringing 10nm (high end desktop) forward to the end of the year but latest news is all about Cannonlake delayed to the end of 2018.

When I do upgrade I won't go for less than 8 core / 16 thread - had half an eye on the 7820X but that is turned out kind of underwhelming so unless the price drops a lot I won't be jumping on one in a hurry.

With my 4820K @ 4.6GHz + 1070 I'm not really suffering performance wise even at 1440p/144Hz.
 
Born_2_Kill_83 said:
Just wanting to see the people that own 5920/30/60's what your upgrade plan is. Is there now a processor in 2018 your waiting for, did you go for the Skylake earlier in the year - how was the upgrade? or did you just buy a 8700k?

I'm torn, I've been on mine since what feels like an age, I game at 1440p 21:9 100hz, I want to upgrade very soon. Love the 5ghz speeds of the 8700k, but don't like the idea of still only having a 6 core cpu on a z370 9 month life board.

Lets hear your opinions please.
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I have a 6800K @ 4Ghz with 1080Ti and using 2560x1440 monitor. I was going to buy the 8700K but saw the benchmarks at 2560x1440. Even with the 8700K @ 5Ghz I might gain 1fps tops. Nothing important.
8 core Zen+ in February is more worthy upgrade for me, if AMD post is correct. (15% gain on IPC, higher clocks and better IMC for 4000Mhz+ ram speeds)
 
While games could certainly be better optimised in many cases there is a misconception when it comes to threading - there are certain parts of a game's core workflow that are simply very highly serial and can't really be threaded very usefully - some developer for some reason just thread everything in the core almost pointlessly - you just get lots of stalled threads waiting on other stuff to complete or running side by side no better performing than if single threaded and/or running on a lesser number of threads and for a better way to describe it you get very "average" framerates and noticeable micro-stutter when things get busy - just a certain kind of feel to those engines I can't easily describe.

Obviously you can increasingly use threading to make the game richer in terms of things like AI, sound, physics, etc. making use of the extra threads to put in more advanced versions of those.
 
I'm running a 5960x right now at 4.5 Ghz 1.2v (J-Batch from 2015) it can do 4.7 @ 1.28-1.292v but the heat and power draw vs 4.5 @1.2 in encoding time/gaming performance wasn't worth it

i mainly use my rig for gaming and x264/HEVC encoding and i am seriously considering dropping two cores and getting a 8700K with the idea to then relegate the 8700k to my ITX/HTPC rig when the 8 core coffelake is out in 2018

a 8700K @ 5Ghz probably wont be too far off or maybe even equal a 5960x

i originally planed to get a 7900X/7920X but as far as im concerned Skylake-X is dead in the water
 
Born_2_Kill_83 said:
Just wanting to see the people that own 5920/30/60's what your upgrade plan is. Is there now a processor in 2018 your waiting for, did you go for the Skylake earlier in the year - how was the upgrade? or did you just buy a 8700k?

I'm torn, I've been on mine since what feels like an age, I game at 1440p 21:9 100hz, I want to upgrade very soon. Love the 5ghz speeds of the 8700k, but don't like the idea of still only having a 6 core cpu on a z370 9 month life board.

Lets hear your opinions please.
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AMD Zen, you are very welcome.
 
I did a thread on this a few months ago. If you're on X99 and the main purpose is gaming, then you only have side-grade paths right now. It's not a particularly bad thing, your money was well spent on the X99 system. Personally, my next big investment will be the 1080ti successor.

My thoughts on the 8700k:

String said:
I've just had a look at TechPowerUp's 8700k review for both average and minimum FPS in gaming benchmarks. I'm actually surprised at the [email protected] v's [email protected] comparisons. There's a fraction of a frame in it on lot of the comparisons, and even when the newer chip pulls away it's not by much at all.

It's great that the CPU market is vibrant right now, but GPU remains king for gaming regardless of core count. I'll resurrect this thread on the next CPU release and see how things stack up. :)
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String said:
I've just had a look at TechPowerUp's 8700k review for both average and minimum FPS in gaming benchmarks. I'm actually surprised at the [email protected] v's [email protected] comparisons. There's a fraction of a frame in it on lot of the comparisons, and even when the newer chip pulls away it's not by much at all.

It's great that the CPU market is vibrant right now, but GPU remains king for gaming regardless of core count. I'll resurrect this thread on the next CPU release and see how things stack up. :)
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Amen
 
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