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Haswell owner's, your upgrade path...
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Haswell-E is still fantastic, I don't see why anyone would even be considering upgrading it. Assuming you're going for reasonable overclocks on all chips, you'd only gain ~15% per-core performance if heavily overclocking with Coffee Lake, or gain 33% more cores but lose ~10% per-core performance with Ryzen 7. Either way you also lose any HEDT features you might be using. Considering the outlay required that seems hugely pointless.
At least if you're currently on 4 cores (or fewer) you'd have a reasonable boost from the extra cores, or if you're still on Westmere-EP, Sandy Bridge-E, or Ivy Bridge-E you'd benefit from a nice uplift in IPC.
At least if you're currently on 4 cores (or fewer) you'd have a reasonable boost from the extra cores, or if you're still on Westmere-EP, Sandy Bridge-E, or Ivy Bridge-E you'd benefit from a nice uplift in IPC.
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Going from i7 to i3?
but the i3 8350K is still a quad core , albeit with HT , i mainly use it my main PC rig for gaming.
I can't imagine 4790K to 8350k is an upgrade at all. Your dropping from 4C/8T to 4C/4T.
i smile as many people thought x99 platform was bad value for money when its looking to be a excellent platform now.most of the chips still beat even newer chips now.especially in games.there is no cpus worth upgrading to apart from x299 higher end stuff from x99. the transition of x6 aswell for games have meant that it will have a good few years yet still with a good gpu.
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This makes me smile every time a new CPU and board comes out, the X99 was crap back then the X299 and Z370/8700k is crap now. Upgrading to the latest 1080ti is cool, but it seems if you upgrade your CPU you can never do it right. The general advise is to always wait for the next gen, every release. In fact the last time I can remember a forum getting excited about a CPU and every-one agreeing no matter what you had previous - it was worth an upgrade, was the Q6600.
For me the ideal upgrade looks to be a X299 with a 7900, but that's just mega money, double what I paid for my X99 platform back in the day, and no the gain's don't match the price paid by a long shot comparing it with X99.
I wish grading CPU's was as easy as it used to be, like upgrading GPU's are still today.
I think the problem is people don't want to let go of what they have, they don't want to admit it's worth an upgrade. I want to upgrade my X99, I've had it since release day, it shows 50% usage in BF1 100% of the time @ 4.5 and games are only going to push it harder, 6 core's feels old and I want to off load if before it becomes worthless.
I'm betting in 4 years time when the range of Intel and AMD CPU's are out in 2021, owning the X299 and a 7900 will be king.
For me the ideal upgrade looks to be a X299 with a 7900, but that's just mega money, double what I paid for my X99 platform back in the day, and no the gain's don't match the price paid by a long shot comparing it with X99.
I wish grading CPU's was as easy as it used to be, like upgrading GPU's are still today.
I think the problem is people don't want to let go of what they have, they don't want to admit it's worth an upgrade. I want to upgrade my X99, I've had it since release day, it shows 50% usage in BF1 100% of the time @ 4.5 and games are only going to push it harder, 6 core's feels old and I want to off load if before it becomes worthless.
I'm betting in 4 years time when the range of Intel and AMD CPU's are out in 2021, owning the X299 and a 7900 will be king.
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the IPC in a 8350K is higher than the 4790K at stock , and the refinements of going from a Z97 to Z370/90 as well.
There are not a lot of games that can make use of more than 4 threads / cores , and i have noticed in some games that disabling HT runs a little smoother , and the CPU temps are a bit lower as well.
As im waiting for the Z390 i might as well go for the 8700K anyways for another £150 on top.
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If you look at my current sig, it's not the CPU that dictates the primary system it's the GPU. When I move to the 1180ti or next Titan or whatever, I'll consider whether it's worth pairing it with the 5930k as opposed to the 6700k.
I'll probably end up pairing it with the 6700k to save on changing more components around and swapping mobo from case to case... because the difference in FPS between the 2 CPU's will still be meh @ 3440*1440 100Hz
I'll probably end up pairing it with the 6700k to save on changing more components around and swapping mobo from case to case... because the difference in FPS between the 2 CPU's will still be meh @ 3440*1440 100Hz
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By all means have the latest tech, but as far as the CPU is concerned you might as well Photoshop the CPU-z screenies as that's all the difference you'll see for your £1k+ when gaming.
I have stopped using my 5930K- X99 PC for gaming, I now use my 1800X AMD PC for games and my Intel for work. I would have got a x399 for work but the MS Android Emulator does not work with Ryzen so need to keep an Intel just for that. The AMD PC feel much faster for my work stuff, except the stuff that does not work and games run great.
I agree. Considering that my 6800K is of same gaming perf with the 1600/1600X @ 4Ghz, and I game at 2560x1440 the GTX1080Ti was much better longer term investment until something comes out to beat it by 30%.
And because at this res we are GPU bottlenecked not CPU bottlenecked, I do not see the reason upgrading CPU from a 6core (6800K) to another 6core (8700K), even if the latter works at 5Ghz having higher IPC. Is pointless upgrade and the benchmarks do show that. (1fps benefit at best).
Upgrading to 8 core CPU is more compelling, but again, not much actual gains. I believe could wait until next gen Ryzen in February.
(But still those 1800X for £360 do look tempting with a B350F Strix)
You'll probably better off waiting for zen2, I don't see the refresh improving beyond coffeelake.
True, but my brother found someone to sell his 4930K and is asking for my 6800K. (for free ofc)
So keeping my options open.
and I do have upgrade itch since the summer.... but always postponed it.In that case I would wait for the refresh. Nothing worse than pulling the trigger just before something better comes along. Or make your brother donate towards your ryzen build .
I have a itch too but I promised myself I would wait.
.I have a itch too but I promised myself I would wait.
In that case I would wait for the refresh. Nothing worse than pulling the trigger just before something better comes along. Or make your brother donate towards your ryzen build
I have a itch too but I promised myself I would wait.
Unfortunately my brother is living back home (Greece) and is unemployed since 2008 (huge issue in mainland there). Cannot and won't ask money off him, and money isn't an issue for me tbh.
Then what are you waiting for? Get your wallet out treat yourself and your brother at the same time. Win Win
