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Haswell?

scwba06 said:
I'm thinking about waiting for Haswell too. Ivy chips may drop slightly in price when Haswell is launched and if there is an ivy/sb like gap in performance I may go with ivy
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Haswell is a new architecture rather than just a die shrink so it will offer bigger gains than Ivy did over Sandy; with that said however, Intel are increasingly focusing on power efficiency and integrated graphics so the gains will likely be smaller than we have been used to from previous architecture jumps.
 
Dave2150 said:
Obiously Haswell should have higher performance than ivy, since it is the next generation.

Socket 2011 is pretty much dead in the water save for those enthusiasts who do a lot of video editing/etc who will want to spend 500 quid+ on a cpu (IB-E)

I know a lot of people on 2011 really hope Haswell has bad performance, so their hardware doesn't seem so obsolete but I believe they will be proven wrong soon enough :3
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What?...

LGA2011 isn't dead and also i got my 3930K for £400 and there is the 3820K for much less. Sure there is and always will be chips over £500, but not all of them.

I do hope Haswell does very well, as i will interested on other builds but my main build is and will always be an "enthusiast" build. There is not a chance in hell that LGA2011 will be obsolete. Are you just bitter that you didn't go for an X79 setup or something? Or looking at your sig, not managed to move on from a low overclocked 920?

Also people, it's no longer a socket, it's an LGA. The pins are on the motherboard now, not the CPU.
 
tbh said:
Haswell is a new architecture rather than just a die shrink so it will offer bigger gains than Ivy did over Sandy; with that said however, Intel are increasingly focusing on power efficiency and integrated graphics so the gains will likely be smaller than we have been used to from previous architecture jumps.
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According to Fudzilla (pinch of salt), Haswell will be around 10%+ faster than Ivy Bridge.

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/28318-haswell-to-be-10 -percent-faster-than-ivy-bridge
Now Intel tells its partners to expect that Haswell should end up at least 10 percent faster than Ivy Bridge based cores at the same clock. These numbers are based on pre-silicon projections that Intel always does before it gets the working prototype back, but since we are some month away from the IDF 2012 in San Francisco, we are quite sure that we will see Haswell again, much closer to its final design, and we even expect to see Broadwell prototypes to hit at least one of the keynotes.
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WingZero30 said:
According to Fudzilla (pinch of salt), Haswell will be around 10%+ faster than Ivy Bridge.
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I think that would be quite a significant amount of salt. 10% is a big claim, but also 10% faster in what type of operation? If it's an aggregate figure including the much anticipated IGP improvements then it would skew the figures enormously without any demonstrable improvement in the areas that most people really care about. Frankly I think it's total BS.
 
Dirtyganker said:
I think that would be quite a significant amount of salt. 10% is a big claim, but also 10% faster in what type of operation? If it's an aggregate figure including the much anticipated IGP improvements then it would skew the figures enormously without any demonstrable improvement in the areas that most people really care about. Frankly I think it's total BS.
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Indeed.

Fud and Softpedia are to be taken with a bucket of salt most of the time.
 
Decent news if true. I'm not sure of the exact performance gains between each generation, but a guess at 30% plus performance over my bloomfield - clock-for-clock makes it worthy of upgrade consideration.
 
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One of these'll most likely be my next upgrade. Should be a nice improvement over my current i5 750 (Lynnfield, late 2009).
 
Dirtyganker said:
Apologies, it was the way you worded it and your punctuation that actually gave me the reverse impression of what you were trying to communicate. I had to re-read it about 6 times before I got the jist of what you were saying ... and I broadly agree with the sentiment.
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Lol I know - iPad punctuation fail
 
wazza300 said:
still too many sockets!!! thats intel marketing greed,amd keep the same socket
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You DO realise all the AMD CPU from Athlon up to Phenom II are pretty much the same architecture that were only tweaked, modified and enhanced? K6->K8->K10. That's the reason why the socket compatability seem to be better than Intel.

The lack of innovation and/or no real "new" architecture for so many years is what made AMD fell behind Intel on performance, despite it use to dominate Intel during the Athlon vs Pentium 4 days. And when AMD eventually bought out a new CPU that's completely broke away from the old K architectures, they end up being even slower than the Phenom II! I wonder if the great people behind the Athlon back in the days no longer work for AMD anymore...

People that went Intel can skip at least a gen before needing to upgrade the CPU, if they pick the right CPU i.e Q6600/Q9550, i5 750/i7 920, i5 2500K/i5 3570K. But with AMD CPU...it would already be a bottleneck the moment you stick it into the socket of the motherboard if you were using a high-end graphic card...
 
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WingZero30 said:
According to Fudzilla (pinch of salt), Haswell will be around 10%+ faster than Ivy Bridge.
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If it's 10% faster than Ivy per clock and clocks as well as Sandy then I can probably justify upgrading from my 2500K, if it doesn't clock well then I guess I'll have to wait and see what Broadwell brings.
 
Marine-RX179 what you said mate.
Maybe amd did stick to less sockets.
But look what sort of **** are they selling now !!!
I dont know if you are aware that amd got some financial problems.
Only thing that gets them going is ATI and APU.

If intel would start to make unlocked i3 processors that would be nail to coffin of amd....
 
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