Have OC made an error?

Ben B · 18 Nov 2008 at 16:10

For this bundle it is £355 incl VAT, but to buy everything separately that makes the bundle, it only costs £344 incl VAT.

Am I missing something?

And if I were to buy it separately, would it have any effects on my Overclocking abilites? As I cant afford to fork out the huge lump some, so was hoping I could do it in stages.

Slashiem · 18 Nov 2008 at 16:30

Ermm weird that one, probaly paying a premium for them choosing some good stuff for overclocking, also kinda weird they have a tuniq tower pictured where you get a Arctic Freezer 7. Also their giving you a Q6600 which is guarenteed to run at 3.2GHz.
Personally wouldnt bother with those bundles with the newer P45 motherboards and personally 4GB of RAM is a must nowadays.
Could get this: which is as good if not better and costs a couple quid less.

And if you want faster RAM for higher overclocking check this: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-022-GS

And of course the Overclocking sticky at the top of the page on the overclock and cooling section.

Ben B · 18 Nov 2008 at 16:32

Ahh okay, well, so an E8400, 4GB of 8500 RAM, and say a P5Q is better?

Thanks

Ben

* My bad, never saw the screenshot, didn't appear.

MoRT489 · 18 Nov 2008 at 16:39

Yes P5Q is better as it is a newer chipset and a better overclocker. Also, if you did at some point decide to go x-fire it would be feasible on the P45 based board whereas on the P35 it is severally limited.

If you were to choose the Q6600 over the E8400 u could save a few £ on RAM as the PC6400 stuff is fine for a Q6600.

Only risk with buying in stages is the state of the economy at the moment. if the £ drops further against the $ it means higher prices in UK, which has lead to week-on-week increases in prices.

Ben B · 18 Nov 2008 at 16:40

Hmmm, never thought of that.

I'll probably buy the Mobo, and RAM first, then the rest in another order, I just hope it doesn't change....

Thanks Creed

Ben

MoRT489 · 18 Nov 2008 at 16:43

P5Q PRO and up the range that is, with regard to xfire compatibility.

jas07 · 18 Nov 2008 at 16:45

Ordering sep wont affect what oc you can get no.

Ben B · 18 Nov 2008 at 16:52

Right okey dokey.

I think, its going to be

Q6600
P5Q-E
OCZ 4GB of some kind.... 6400 probably
Tuniq Core Cooler, like was shown?

Think thats the final decision now

Thanks

linktoinsanity · 18 Nov 2008 at 17:04

I'd recommend an E8400 over the Q6600. The lower energy consumption, faster stock clockspeeds, nigher overclock speeds, extra cache and lower temperatures plus the fact that few current applications utilize all four cores mean that a Q6600 is not as good a choice as an E8400 these days...

Ben B · 18 Nov 2008 at 17:23

Mattf121 said:
I'd recommend an E8400 over the Q6600. The lower energy consumption, faster stock clockspeeds, nigher overclock speeds, extra cache and lower temperatures plus the fact that few current applications utilize all four cores mean that a Q6600 is not as good a choice as an E8400 these days...

Hmm, cool.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j137/Nufusion/750.jpg

Thats what I was told to buy, from a member on here.

Was just seeing if anythings changed

Mattus · 18 Nov 2008 at 17:30

Mattf121 said:
I'd recommend an E8400 over the Q6600. The lower energy consumption, faster stock clockspeeds, nigher overclock speeds, extra cache and lower temperatures plus the fact that few current applications utilize all four cores mean that a Q6600 is not as good a choice as an E8400 these days...

Not this again

There's a huuge thread on this here, and lots of others. It really depends what the OP's gonna do with the system.

Ben B · 18 Nov 2008 at 21:00

Mattus said:
Not this again There's a huuge thread on this here, and lots of others. It really depends what the OP's gonna do with the system.

Ahh nice one

Well, gaming, must be able to run GRID, CoD, GTA, maybe Crysis, idk yet.

And video encoding, general usage, music, iTunes, downloading, storage.

Thanks

Mattus · 18 Nov 2008 at 21:04

Dual's a bit better for gaming, but if you're gonna be doing encoding semi-regularly then quad is the only way forward, almost twice as fast.

Happy · 18 Nov 2008 at 21:04

Then get the quadcore

Ben B · 18 Nov 2008 at 21:09

Thanks to the both of you

It'll be on order a.s.a.p

I think I'll get Mobo first, and secure that in the case, then go from there.

First build for me, and I'm lost with the PSU. Which way do I mount it? Fan facing into the case, or the fan facing down?

PaulyD · 18 Nov 2008 at 21:22

E8400 doesn't have extra cache but everything else was right!

And doesn't everyone say that above 3.2ghz does not make a difference when gaming (or a lot of posts on here do as i've seen recently)? In that case getting a quad and overclocking to 3.2 is easily possible for even moderate cooling..

Only difference standing then is higher overclock (for benchmarking), lower temps (if its in the safe range why worry?) and lower power consumption (ok i don't pay the leccy bill!)

When i had a e8600 briefly i found vista to not be as snappy as my quad and games ran the same...

Mattus · 18 Nov 2008 at 21:27

Which case? I generally have the fan pointing out of the case, so hot air is pulled outwards. Also, I tend not to screw the mobo into the case until the CPU and cooler are installed - just a bit easier!

Ben B · 18 Nov 2008 at 21:37

My Case is an NZXT Tempest, labeled as the "Airflow King" so we'll see

Ahh okay, so, I'll just order the Mobo, and something else next, I'm doing orders in £150 blocks.

So got my case and Corsair 650W PSU, next will be mobo, and erm, HDD?

ATM, I have PSU fan, pointing into the case, as I thought that'd make more sense, having the fan, pull the hot air from inside, and send it out of the exhaust fan on the PSU.

But all the writing on it, is upside down, so I think I'm wrong....

Ben B · 18 Nov 2008 at 21:38

PaulyD said:
E8400 doesn't have extra cache but everything else was right!

And doesn't everyone say that above 3.2ghz does not make a difference when gaming (or a lot of posts on here do as i've seen recently)? In that case getting a quad and overclocking to 3.2 is easily possible for even moderate cooling..

Only difference standing then is higher overclock (for benchmarking), lower temps (if its in the safe range why worry?) and lower power consumption (ok i don't pay the leccy bill!)

When i had a e8600 briefly i found vista to not be as snappy as my quad and games ran the same...

I do plan to OC either the 8400 or the 6600, but not like to the limit.

Only to boost it to 3.0GHz with the quad, and 3.4 with the Dual.

I'm very new to OC'ing, well, building in general, I think I'm in over my head :/

Mattus · 18 Nov 2008 at 21:45

Pretty sure the writing is upside down on my Corsair PSU (not at home at the moment) - don't think it matters, as long as the PSU can pull air inwards.

Just a thought, but instead of buying in stages, you could wait until you've saved up all the money and get it all in one go? That way you could get the latest stuff rather than building with a mobo that's already a few months old, and hopefully the exchange rates will have improved by then! Bonus: you'll only have to pay one lot of delivery.

Ben B said:
I'm very new to OC'ing, well, building in general, I think I'm in over my head :/

I think everyone feels like that the first time... best way to learn PC building is by doing, it's pretty hard to break anything! And there's loads of good advice on these forums.