Having an itch to upgrade and need some advice please !

TheSwede

TheSwede

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Hi all,

As mentioned having an itch to upgrade and had it for a while so thought I ask you experts as to what you would recommend for me ? This is my system at the moment:

Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master
Ryzen 9 5900X
Radeon RX 6900XT
Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB (4x8GB)
EVGA Power Supply SuperNOVA 1000 G2 1000W
Corsair Hydro H150i 360mm

The OS is on a 1GB M2 drive.

What I am thinking of upgrading for now would be the MB and RAM (to DDR5), but not sure if the CPU would work on a DDR5 compatible MB though ? If not, then a CPU to go with it as well, and would prefer AMD as previously. The only 'requirement' of sort is that I would like the MB to have at least 6 SATA connectors, or if not, a recommendation for a good SATA expansion card to put into the PC ? I do like my HDD/SSD and presently have 6 of them and two M2 drives.

In any case, would really appreciate some advice as to what board and memory would be a good combination ??

Thank you for reading ! :D
 
Tetras said:
What do you use the PC for?

What is the budget for the upgrade?
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Gaming mostly and browsing. Budget not to fuzzed as long as it is a decent upgrade but not costing an arm and a leg, so if you have a MB for £1,000+ in mind, that be a tad to much.
 
TheSwede said:
Gaming mostly and browsing. Budget not to fuzzed as long as it is a decent upgrade but not costing an arm and a leg, so if you have a MB for £1,000+ in mind, that be a tad to much.
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Given what you're upgrading from (already a decent build), I think you really need to go X3D (or 13th/14th gen, I guess), otherwise it's not going to offer much worthwhile.

The Tomahawk meets your requirement of 6 SATA, so maybe this:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £749.98 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

(I went with 64GB just because you already have 32GB, but OCUK's selection isn't.., the best).
 
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From the specifications you've listed it's probably better waiting until next year and seeing what Zen5/Arrow Lake bring as Zen4 or Raptor Lake wouldn't be a huge upgrade.

For gaming you could swap your 5900x for a 5800X3D, and there would be much an outlay, but the real world difference wouldn't be huge.

You might want to consider what you could carry forward to a future build - you may see more benefit from a new monitor, headphones or chair than you would upgrading components from an already good system.
 
@Tetras Thanks for the suggestion, much appreciated !
:D


A couple of questions though:

What would the difference be between the 7800X3D and the 7900X3D ? As the price difference isn't that much ?

Also, is the 5200MHz memory the sweet spot for this CPU or it wont matter ??
 
@ED209

Yeah I had to compress the files over and over again, even had to push them into a box and jump on it to make it all fit on the drive !! :D :o

But yeah, maybe should probably upgrade it to a 2GB(TB) drive instead ! :p

@mickyflinn

Well that's the thing. I had this itch since the start of the year and have to scratch it now, hence asking advice. :o

@hiroofheroes

True, I could wait but then again, there is always something new around the corner so it could be a long waiting game if doing that. :(

In regards to the other upgrade advices: I have a Dell 38'' AW3821DW and a ASUS XG438Q so no new monitor needed, same goes for the headphones (Steelseries Artic 7) and the chair (Noblechair hero), but I do appreciate the suggestions ! :D

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Mods: Sorry for double post but I first tried to do a multi quote post, and it wouldn't let me, not even a single quote. So tried just with a reply to Tetras first as above and that worked, then these since from what I read in the past, doing a @ in an edited post wont ping the user in question ? (Although that might have changed with updates ?)
 
TheSwede said:
Also, is the 5200MHz memory the sweet spot for this CPU or it wont matter ??
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5200: It isn't, 5200 is the stock speed. The X3Ds don't care that much (see here), but most people buy low latency 6000 for Ryzen 7000. As I mentioned though, OCUK's selection of 64GB kits isn't great, so have a look around at what's available and what kind of prices they are.

TheSwede said:
What would the difference be between the 7800X3D and the 7900X3D ? As the price difference isn't that much ?
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The 7900X3D is rarely recommended, it often benches marginally slower than the 7800X3D (in games) and if you want a 12-core productivity CPU then you'd just buy the 7900 non-X.
 
Tetras said:
(I went with 64GB just because you already have 32GB, but OCUK's selection isn't.., the best).
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@Tetras Thnk you for all your advice, it been much appreciated ! Wondering if I could ask you about the above though. Curious as to why you recommended 64GB of memory and not 32GB again ? Part from the OcUK's selection not being the best, was there another reason or wouldn't 32Gb be enough for gaming nowadays ?
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Edit: Also, of Corsair Vengeance, G.Skill Flare/Trident and Kingston Fury Beast, which would you recommend or are they all just as good as the other ?
 
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TheSwede said:
Curious as to why you recommended 64GB of memory and not 32GB again ? Part from the OcUK's selection not being the best, was there another reason or wouldn't 32Gb be enough for gaming nowadays ?
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I don't like the idea of replacing 32GB with 32GB and since your whole upgrade is along the lines of "why not?", I thought "why not?" :D

TheSwede said:
Edit: Also, of Corsair Vengeance, G.Skill Flare/Trident and Kingston Fury Beast, which would you recommend or are they all just as good as the other ?
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Most of my specs are just for running @ stock or a little bit higher than stock, so no, I don't know.
 
@Tetras Thank you for your advice in this regard ! Although I did end up going with 32GB memory instead for the 64GB you recommended, mostly due to cost since I also got a new PSU to go with the build !

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Had it running for almost a week now and seems to be all good ! Have one question though, the memory is said to be 6000 Mhz but when looking in Task Manager it shows the speed at 4800 Mhz ?? Shouldn't it automagically be running at said speed once installed ? If one have to manually adjust it to their proper speed, maybe a link to how to do it since I have no clue ?? :o
 
energizer123 said:
You need to enable the xmp profile for the ram in the bios. It will vary from motherboard to motherboard but it should be easy to find.
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Tetras said:
In your case I think it is actually expo, judging by the little sticker on your ram, but same thing.
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Thanks to both of you ! Restarted the PC and went into BIOS and changed what you suggested, it is now showing it doing 6000 Mhz ! :D
 
Soo.. Having done the upgrade as above and included is a new AIO cooler for the CPU (an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360), I am still getting hard crashes when playing games, PC totally shutting down for me. Everything from my previous PC has been changed, part from the GPU and have been searching online but not been able to sort this out. At first it was working fine but now, 4 days ago I had the first hard crash since the upgrade, and another two tonight. The only thing (that I can see at least) is that the bios says it is - BIOS version 1.70 - AMD AGESA ComboAM5PI 1.0.0.7c - but that version is not shown on the MSI website, is says the version released around that time was the version 7D75v17. And there been a couple upgrades since then but just for the AGESA ComboPI and a fix for the USB 3.0. Should I try and update the BIOS ? Although a bit worried doing so, since it seems some people have had trouble upgrading their BIOS ?

Any and all suggestions going to be greatly appreciated !
 
TheSwede said:
Soo.. Having done the upgrade as above and included is a new AIO cooler for the CPU (an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360), I am still getting hard crashes when playing games, PC totally shutting down for me. Everything from my previous PC has been changed, part from the GPU and have been searching online but not been able to sort this out. At first it was working fine but now, 4 days ago I had the first hard crash since the upgrade, and another two tonight. The only thing (that I can see at least) is that the bios says it is - BIOS version 1.70 - AMD AGESA ComboAM5PI 1.0.0.7c - but that version is not shown on the MSI website, is says the version released around that time was the version 7D75v17. And there been a couple upgrades since then but just for the AGESA ComboPI and a fix for the USB 3.0. Should I try and update the BIOS ? Although a bit worried doing so, since it seems some people have had trouble upgrading their BIOS ?

Any and all suggestions going to be greatly appreciated !
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BIOS version 1.70 - AMD AGESA ComboAM5PI 1.0.0.7c

NEW AMD AGESA PI 1.0.0.7c BIOS Update Supports Higher Frequency Memory Modules & Stability Bug Fixes

NEW AMD AGESA PI 1.0.0.7c BIOS Update Supports Higher Frequency Memory Modules & Stability Bug Fixes
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the bios you have is meant to enable running ddr5 at higher speeds and be stable. If you disable expo in the bios and run at stock 4800Hz, does the pc still crash. If not, then I think you have to try a later version of bios to see if that fixes problem. What's odd is that you said it was running fine until recently..did nvidia driver do an update? is it a certain game that causes the crash?
 
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