Having problems with my VVTi engine

if the engine doesnt have a differnt cam profile then you wont feel the "kick". The 140 doesnt have this cam profile, and is ther main reason for buying the 190. VVT-i versus VVTL-i - the "L" is what produces the giggles.
 
Are the lift bolts worn? Whats the mileage on the engine? Reading up on the 190bhp engine suggests this is quite common after about 60-70k, and it's as simple as replacing a few bolts. :)
 
VVTi compared to VVTi-L isnt it?

Wrong.

VVTL-i (Timing and lift) is only seen on imports, both the 140/190 UK Celicas only have VVTi.

Can't comment on the 140, however I owned an imported VVTLi a couple of years ago and it wasn't that faster at all over the VVTi.
 
wrong.

i can get a picture of my cam cover right now to prove this if you need! although it would be from a corolla not a celica but the difference is negligible.

i also have video of my dyno...you can almost see the lift.
 
Nickg is right, 190 Celicas in the UK are VVTL-i spec. However as proved, maybe I'm not the best person to comment on the technical aspects of Celicas! :p
 
[TW]Fox;14909384 said:
I dont think it should - the 140 is the economy variant of the engine. There is no performance kick as this is not what that engine is supposed to offer. Not all VVTi systems are equal.

Indeed. The 2.4 VVTi in my Estima certainly doesn't have a 'kick'.
 
dont be mistaken by the branding.

some celicas come as 190's, some as T Sports...they both share the 2zz-GE which has VVTLi. they are both 1.8's not 2.0's. both have lift at 6200rpm~ and rev out to about 8400rpm.

the VVTi is the 140 version with the 1zz FE or something.
 
iirc upto 2001 the 190 version of the car was called the 190, after 2001 they changed it to be branded as a t-sport and gave them the upgraded spec from the 140 premium model and new suspension.

Also the grey colour ones are only the t-sport variety they never did the 140 in that colour

looking to replace my 140 some time next year, probably with a 350z hopefully it will be as fun to drive
 
Eh? So why are they not sold as VVTLi's?

So all 2.0 Gen 7's are VVTLi's, import or not?

That really is news to me.

According to the Wikipedia article for the 2ZZ-GE, it is used in the following cars:

Toyota Celica SS-II (Japan, 187 hp/190 PS)
Toyota Celica GT-S (USA, 180 hp)
Toyota Celica 190/T-Sport (UK, 189 hp)
Toyota Corolla Sportivo (Australia, 189 hp (141 kW)/180 Nm)
Toyota Corolla TS (Europe, (189 hp/192 PS)
Toyota Corolla Compressor (Europe, 222 hp/225 PS)
Toyota Corolla XRS (USA, 164/170 hp)
Toyota Corolla Fielder Z Aero Tourer (Japan, 187 hp/190 PS)
Toyota Corolla Runx Z Aero Tourer (Japan, 187 hp/190 PS)
Toyota Corolla RunX RSi (South Africa, 141kw/180nm)
Toyota Matrix XRS (USA, 164-180 hp)[4]
Pontiac Vibe GT (USA, 164-180 hp)
Lotus Elise (North America/UK, 190 hp)[7]
Lotus Exige (US/UK, 190 hp NA & 243 hp supercharged)[8][9]
 
[TW]Fox;14918717 said:
Not much transmission loss if thats the case though..

12-15% is normal for FWD cars. The 140 is bang on, it's lost ~14%, the 190 seems a bit low though, it appears to have lost around 20%.
 
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