HDMI 2.1 AV Receiver needed

dink · 18 Jan 2022 at 19:37

Schizophonic said:
Good to hear, i was looking at the same model but I think with a bit more extra money I can end up getting one with Dolby Atmos. Enjoy your setup!

The one up from mine the RXv6a has it although its £649 so £200 more, thanks good luck with your search.

Simon · 12 May 2023 at 10:51

Do you get Dolby vision 4k120?

If I go through my RXV6A I get 4k60. If I connect direct to my LG 65C2 I get 4k120.

Annoying. I have emailed Yamaha to see if there’s some settings that need changing.

Xbox to AV to TV :

hornetstinger · 12 May 2023 at 13:29

Simon said:
Do you get Dolby vision 4k120?

If I go through my RXV6A I get 4k60. If I connect direct to my LG 65C2 I get 4k120.

Annoying. I have emailed Yamaha to see if there’s some settings that need changing.

Xbox to AV to TV :

It is a complete mess, with E-ARC etc. Best method would be if your console has dual HDMI out, one for video one for audio. That way won't have issues with E-ARC audio not all supported, and if your AVR isn't fully capable of all native modes the consoles output.

Simon · 12 May 2023 at 14:21

Yeh. It’s annoying. Tbh most the time I use headset to game anyway but that’s not the point

lucid · 12 May 2023 at 14:56

Schizophonic said:
I heard Disney IMAX versions of some movies have DTX sound format. Is that true?

Just coming back to this...

It's DTS:X, but that's a minor point. Anyway, in Jan of this year Disney+ announced that at some point this year the IMAX Enhanced versions of the Marvel superhero films will be streaming with DTS:X audio as well. At lunchtime today I tried about half a dozen of them, but the sound is still coming up as DD+. We're barely 5 months into the year, so there's still a lot of time to go, but this is on the cards now officially.

One advantage of DTS:X over DD+ is that it can do height effect without the need for additional speakers. This can be achieved using the standard 5.1 / 7.1 speaker layout.

kitfit1 · 12 May 2023 at 20:29

lucid said:
One advantage of DTS:X over DD+ is that it can do height effect without the need for additional speakers. This can be achieved using the standard 5.1 / 7.1 speaker layout.

To be honest, i have found any film i have watched so far to be far superior sound wise in DTS:X than any film i have watched in Dolby Atmos. The sound does just fill the room. No need for 4 1000w subs, no need for endless ceiling speakers, no need for 4 or 6 2000w power amps.
It just works. What i cant understand is why the film industry is hell bent on just giving us ATMOS and not giving us the option of watching in DTS:X

rare · 13 May 2023 at 21:40

Recently upgraded my SR6012 to a X3800H because I could no longer stand having to rely on eARC being so hit and miss.

X3800H has had some inconsistent reviews but having the ability to have 6 full 2.1 HDMI inputs is a big deal finally, plus it powers my 5.1.4 setup perfectly.

I’ve noticed that a lot of AV amps have gone crazy price wise. I usually buy Marantz but the current equivalent of the SR6012 is stupidly expensive compared to the Denon equivalent.

Like mentioned, wish there were more fils with DTS:X, I’ve usually preferred DTS over Dolby.

hornetstinger · 13 May 2023 at 21:53

rare said:
Recently upgraded my SR6012 to a X3800H because I could no longer stand having to rely on eARC being so hit and miss.

X3800H has had some inconsistent reviews but having the ability to have 6 full 2.1 HDMI inputs is a big deal finally, plus it powers my 5.1.4 setup perfectly.

I’ve noticed that a lot of AV amps have gone crazy price wise. I usually buy Marantz but the current equivalent of the SR6012 is stupidly expensive compared to the Denon equivalent.

Like mentioned, wish there were more fils with DTS:X, I’ve usually preferred DTS over Dolby.

Would advise you get a couple of fans to prolong life of the AVR

rare · 13 May 2023 at 21:59

How so? It’s in an open unit, with space on the sides and rear and a good couple of inches above. Also covered by a 6 year warranty. Never had an issue with my two previous amps and they both ran hot to be fair.

I am tempted to get a power amp for the front channels though.

I suppose I could plug a USB fan in to the back of it blowing air over it…

hornetstinger · 13 May 2023 at 22:14

rare said:
How so? It’s in an open unit, with space on the sides and rear and a good couple of inches above. Also covered by a 6 year warranty. Never had an issue with my two previous amps and they both ran hot to be fair.

I am tempted to get a power amp for the front channels though.

I suppose I could plug a USB fan in to the back of it blowing air over it…

Denon and Marantz get very hot even in totally open racking. Plenty of evidence showing Denon get very hot, to the point of unable to holding your hand on the hottest areas on the top. That sort of tempepture does not bode well for long term reliability It could fail 6 years 1 month ;-)

I would recommend getting a three channel as the center is just as important if not more so than the LR in a AV system.

rare · 13 May 2023 at 22:53

Thanks for the heads up, it’s the first Denon I’ve had. Will investigate getting some USB fans perhaps to sit on the top.

theone8181 · 14 May 2023 at 13:25

Set it to eco, I did with my 3700 and it makes a massive improvement to temps.

rare · 14 May 2023 at 13:42

theone8181 said:
Set it to eco, I did with my 3700 and it makes a massive improvement to temps.

Good point, I used to run my SR6012 in eco and could never tell the difference as I don’t think I ever run it loud enough.

I also ordered a couple of AC Infinity S7 fans to draw heat away from it

They seem quiet enough and hopefully will do the job.

Simon · 16 May 2023 at 11:38

hornetstinger said:
It is a complete mess, with E-ARC etc. Best method would be if your console has dual HDMI out, one for video one for audio. That way won't have issues with E-ARC audio not all supported, and if your AVR isn't fully capable of all native modes the consoles output.

So Yamaha replied again and said to set colour to 4:2:0 to enable 4k120. Completely missing the point of wanting Dolby vision. Unless I’m missing something.

The processor is limited to 24gb/s.

hornetstinger · 16 May 2023 at 12:02

Simon said:
So Yamaha replied again and said to set colour to 4:2:0 to enable 4k120. Completely missing the point of wanting Dolby vision. Unless I’m missing something.

The processor is limited to 24gb/s.

4:4:4 is native type?

Simon · 16 May 2023 at 13:06

hornetstinger said:
4:4:4 is native type?

from Google - 4:4:4 is uncompressed and therefore provides the best image quality, whereas 4:2:2 and 4:2:0 sacrifice color quality for a lower data rate. Chroma subsampling is a type of color compression that reduces data rate and file size.

So ultimately a poorer image due to the av receiver