HDMI Cables

yes since using the more expensive cable my graphics card can use its full potential..a lot of the detail was missing before but now its like playing 3d games for the first time again.

i even got told that the price of my house may have doubled...some say it improves their sex life.

so what are you waiting for ?
 
This is an interesting discussion!

I've shelled out for two QED HDMI cables. One DVI-HDMI for the HTPC and one HDMI-HDMI for Onkyo to TV. I was considering adding another HDMI-HDMI when I eventually opt for Sky HD, but after reading this thread, I might go for a much cheaper alternative.

I firmly believe that digital optical cables are all identical in terms of performance but I remain completely unsure about digital coaxial and HDMI. As has been said above, What Hi-Fi et al all rave about better cables and better mains leads etc, but I haven't seen any concrete evidence either way.

Maybe the answer is to try both and decide for yourself whether it makes any visible/audible difference to you. I might adopt this mantra from now on!

I've seen what hi-fi's staff suggest that it could be worthwhile to pay a hi-fi shop £50 to break in a cable, because if it doesn't make a difference, you can just send it back.

The hi-fi industry is based upon the moral belief that if someone pays for something and they are happy then it's all well and good. Sadly, most of the stuff promoted by these magazines is a con. The problem is, it's impossible to prove that something doesn't make a positive difference to a listening experience, but you can prove that under controlled conditions a listener is not able to tell A from B. Such tests have demonstrated that hi-fi bods will struggle to identify a £2 cable from a £2000 one, a £200 amp from a £5000 one and a £100 CD player from a £10K one.
 
I've seen what hi-fi's staff suggest that it could be worthwhile to pay a hi-fi shop £50 to break in a cable, because if it doesn't make a difference, you can just send it back.

The hi-fi industry is based upon the moral belief that if someone pays for something and they are happy then it's all well and good. Sadly, most of the stuff promoted by these magazines is a con. The problem is, it's impossible to prove that something doesn't make a positive difference to a listening experience, but you can prove that under controlled conditions a listener is not able to tell A from B. Such tests have demonstrated that hi-fi bods will struggle to identify a £2 cable from a £2000 one, a £200 amp from a £5000 one and a £100 CD player from a £10K one.

ANd what hi-fi don't help the noobies, plus their forum is full of people recommending cables varying on how much their equipment costs.

Amps do make a massive difference, my arcam delta 290 (greta amp with solid 75w rms) was brought to its knees by my ATCs and sounded like an old pensioner wheezing, but my lyngdorf is like angelina jolie and jennifer aniston having a lesbo experience together. Lyngdorf is about £1400 new (I paid £600) and the arcam is about 12 years old and about £100 now. Massive difference, but then to upgrade from my lyngdorf, well could look at a £4k karan but the law of diminishing returns would really kick in.

surely there must be differences in technicial specs. Its like comparing a £100 amp/speaker with a £10,000 isnt it??

No no, because speakers have better mechanical parts, like the drivers, tight tolerance parts, better crossovers, and cabinet designs, all of which can affect the sound. Twisting the conducters in a cable a different way, or adding extra rubber, teflon, cotton, or solid gold won't affect a digital cable. Analogue cables are more susceptible to interferance and can be made to sound different, but Ihave not actually done a proper comparison, just made up my own with fancy twisted silver wire in teflon over some tubing in a helix fashion and covered in cotton. Why you may ask, because I paid the same for my materials as a good quality mark grant canare industry standard interconnect (cdp -> amp) and wanted to try DIY. Haven't compared them yet as am just enjoying what my diy concoction does, and frankly have better things to spend my money on.

Mid range is where it is at, price and quality. Not for cables though, although i will try some zanash speaker cables eventually when I have more disposable income and time.
 
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Rather than start a new thread, any body know if its okay to connect / disconnect an HDMI cable while the TV and Computer is on ?

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I'll probably get flamed for this... but what the hell...

It's digital, 1s and 0s... so should make no difference, either perfect or terrible.

Having said that - I swear I notice a difference in clarity when running my HTPC's desktop through a 'decent' cambridge audio hdmi cable compared to a cheapy 10 quid cable.

The difference is only noticeable when looking at the desktop/itunes on the TV though... hooking one up to my blu-ray player / hd-dvd player or even playing videos through the HTPC on the TV... I notice no difference there at all.

Yet text is more legible in itunes :S
 
I'll probably get flamed for this... but what the hell...

It's digital, 1s and 0s... so should make no difference, either perfect or terrible.

Having said that - I swear I notice a difference in clarity when running my HTPC's desktop through a 'decent' cambridge audio hdmi cable compared to a cheapy 10 quid cable.

The difference is only noticeable when looking at the desktop/itunes on the TV though... hooking one up to my blu-ray player / hd-dvd player or even playing videos through the HTPC on the TV... I notice no difference there at all.

Yet text is more legible in itunes :S

Can you take pictures and post them?
 
Someone's been reading too much What Hi-fi......be careful as next you'll be telling us there's difference between £1/m speaker cable and £1.01/m cable.
 
Someone's been reading too much What Hi-fi......be careful as next you'll be telling us there's difference between £1/m speaker cable and £1.01/m cable...............

............and £100/m gives amazing sound quality!

Seriously though, if crazycooter can really see a difference I'd like to see some screen shots.
 
Seriously though, if crazycooter can really see a difference I'd like to see some screen shots.

I remember a few years back coming across a screen shot comparison on a website of 4 different hi-end HDMI cables ranging from $100 to $800 in price. To be honest I couldn't really tell the slightest bit of difference between any of them. In the comments section there were all these audiophiles replieing which had the best image quality, blacks and smoothness. I got the impression these audiophiles had all fallen for The Emperors New Clothes.
 
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I remember a few years back coming across a screen shot comparison on a website of 4 different hi-end HDMI cables ranging from $100 to $800 in price. To be honest I couldn't really tell the slightest bit of difference between any of them. In the comments section there were all these audiophiles replieing which had the best image quality, blacks and smoothness. I got the impression these audiophiles had all fallen for The Emperors New Clothes.

Please see if you can find that!
 
Theres got to be some difference! Even if its like 0.0000000000000000001
I've seen speaker cables for £0.75p/m and some for £1,080p/m. There must be something in the technology that makes a difference.

I cant really see people paying thousands and thousand pounds on AV hardware and then buying cheap0 cables to link it all together.

Its like buying a veyron and then feeding it on RON95......
 
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