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kdd said:
Hmm you overstate 'problems' with lcd's and understate problems with plasma's. I own both, and would recommend a decent LED over a plasma for gaming. Do some research on modern screens...
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I didnt say they were problems, I said they were disadvantages of LCD, and they should be taken into consideration. Im no fanboy and Im not trying to say plasmas are better than LCD no matter what, I appreciate there are pros and cons of each.

But to suggest that owning a Panasonic plasma is burn in waiting to happen is unfair and alarmist.

As for your last comment, I didnt just pick the first thing off the shelf when I bought my telly :)
 
All recent Panasonic plasma's are heavily susceptible to IR/Burn in Panasonic have stated as such, that's across their entire range.
 
I have a 50" LG plasma and have never had any screen burn from gaming. I also find text etc to be fine to read. I have my PS3 connected to my 23" pc monitor and that works well too.
 
kdd said:
You're opinionated to extremes, there's a lot of evidence to suggest plasmas are far from ideal for gaming, have a look on youtube for videos of people complaining about burn in on plasma's, panasonics are particularly bad for burn in. Incidentally, a £250 plasma will be inferior in terms of picture quality to a £500 LCD, plasmas are far from across the board great.
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Wasnt just you I was aiming my comment at, but the guy recommending a small screen over a large screen. :p

But I do have to say Plasma quality from my experience is superior to the equivalent LCD option, yes IR is a problem with Plasma in some cases, but its 100% avoidable. They come with quick to activate screen savers. I'm yet to experience the problem, although I do know of some **** who intentionally burned gay porn onto a friends plasma screen when he went on holiday.

Funny in theory, Extremely harsh in reality. But it required the screen being paused for ages(not a few hours)
 
I use a 50" Panasonic Tx-P50st50b.

Panasonic ST50

It's one of the 2012 plasmas, the picture is amazing! I use it Mainly for pc games but it has been great with console only games like Journey and Uncharted.

It also has 3D but really, it's just a gimmick and not worth the expense for active glasses, although if you have kids I'm sure they will be impressed with the crap.

Edit: I have had zero problems with burn in. That's with playing Dark Souls for hours (6-8) at a time with the HUD displayed practically the whole time.
 
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Hmm ive tried console gaming on a 23" pc monitor before, and to me the graphics look worse, blurry etc? i turned the sharpness up a bit but only helped slightly. That panasonic looks nice, my current tv is a LG 32" which isnt bad but its on its way out.
 
kaotikuk said:
Hmm ive tried console gaming on a 23" pc monitor before, and to me the graphics look worse, blurry etc? i turned the sharpness up a bit but only helped slightly. That panasonic looks nice, my current tv is a LG 32" which isnt bad but its on its way out.
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Trust me, the money I have spent on the Panasonic is well worth it. I upgraded from a 55" Sony Viera that was around 6-7 years old. Even though that was 1080p and had what I thought was a great picture it just can't compare with the newer plasmas. It has encouraged myself and the missus to go through all our blurays again.
 
kdd said:
Get an LCD/LED tv, not a plasma ideally, bigger the better!
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Why Plasma over LCD or "LED" (whatever that is. There is no such thing as an "LED" TV and anything to the contrary is marketing claptrap)? I'm dying to know! I personally would only consider an LCD if the screen was to be situated in a very bright room, like say, a TV showroom -for example-.

If you value a natural image, with superior motion handling. I'd recommend Panasonic's 2012 range of plasmas. Don't get me wrong; there are many fine LCD sets on the market, with Sony's 2012 range being good examples, but they still can't compete with a good Plasma.
 
Im running a 50" Panasonic GT50 and it looks fantastic with pretty much anything I use it for, so far not had a single spot of image retention running in game mode and input lag feels non existent however going by reviews I think its rated around 26ms, whether someone else might notice lag I'm not sure but definitely feels fine to me.

However the op did say he is looking for something affordable, and although hasn't stated what he / she is coming from, I would say whether LCD or Plasma there's no need to spend more than a few hundred to get a nice looking TV, just ignore smart features and 3D to keep costs down.
 
BlairH said:
Why Plasma over LCD or "LED" (whatever that is. There is no such thing as an "LED" TV and anything to the contrary is marketing claptrap)? I'm dying to know! I personally would only consider an LCD if the screen was to be situated in a very bright room, like say, a TV showroom -for example-.

If you value a natural image, with superior motion handling. I'd recommend Panasonic's 2012 range of plasmas. Don't get me wrong; there are many fine LCD sets on the market, with Sony's 2012 range being good examples, but they still can't compete with a good Plasma.
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You need to get up to date, later led's are as good as plasma's, I suggest that expensive and sometimes fragile plasma's will remain on the market just because or popularity.
 
kdd said:
You need to get up to date, later led's are as good as plasma's, I suggest that expensive and sometimes fragile plasma's will remain on the market just because or popularity.
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Yet a huge number of professional reviewers out there has stated that Panasonics plasmas offer the best picture quality on the market.
 
kdd said:
You need to get up to date, later led's are as good as plasma's, I suggest that expensive and sometimes fragile plasma's will remain on the market just because or popularity.
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I disagree I have a Samsung 42" top end led tv that I won in a comp. It is rated as one of the best LED LCD tv's available but the picture and motion etc are not a patch on my cheaper 50" LG Plasma tv.
 
kdd said:
You need to get up to date, later led's are as good as plasma's, I suggest that expensive and sometimes fragile plasma's will remain on the market just because or popularity.
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we dont need to get upto date, you just need to get your facts right. Plenty of professionals out there say otherwise. I'll take their word for it. That and you know, being able to see a plasma in action in my living room. And various LCDs in other homes.

Yes, LCD are better than they used to be. But so are Plasmas, and they are still superior.
 
Not really true anymore wannabedamned, panasonic have dropped a lot of plasma's from their line up and replaced them with lcd's which are as good now if not better, plasma's aren't what they were is the point i'm making.
 
kdd said:
Not really true anymore wannabedamned, panasonic have dropped a lot of plasma's from their line up and replaced them with lcd's which are as good now if not better, plasma's aren't what they were is the point i'm making.
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Dropped ??? really, they still sell 5 models of plasma, same as the last 3-4 years, and 3 out of them get very good reviews, same as the last few gens of pana plasma, yes there are problems with some, but that goes for every type of tv out there.

The ST range this year is for the price VERY impressive, the GT is one of the best on the market putting a lot of LED's to shame.
 
LCD even with LED backlighting will never reproduce the picture of a decent plasma. This is why there is so much being spent on OLED tech to replace Plasma.

Having to rely on a backlight is LCD's biggest issue if you ask me. Yes they have got a lot better but are still a long way off the individually lit pixels of a plasma.
 
kdd said:
You need to get up to date, later led's are as good as plasma's, I suggest that expensive and sometimes fragile plasma's will remain on the market just because or popularity.
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Plasmas are fragile? News to me, we've had a pioneer kuro in the living room for 5 years and haven't had a single issue, even with image retention.

I do not "need to get up to date". I'm an AV enthusiast and have experience with what are considered the "best" consumer lcd displays avaliable in the UK (2012 samsung and sony sets) and they simply don't compare to even a 2008 pioneer kuro.

The only LCD screen I would consider is Sharp's "Elite" branded sets, and those are very expensive and only avaliable in the US.
 
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