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almighty15

almighty15

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Just thought id say hello :D

Just got into water cooling, ive got the XSPC Delta V3 kit and i love it. Want to make it perform better though so need some advice.

1. A second drive bay mounted reservoir, this would help because there would be more water available for the system so water would spend less time being heated because there's more of it? :confused:

2. A bigger Rad, prolly goes without saying but my case is very limiting in size and a new Rad is last resort if my other methods wont work at all :(

3. Better fans with 'push-pull' method for better air flow over my existing rad :confused:

Here's a few pictures of my system as it stands now :)

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Specs :

AMD 5600+ X2 @ 3.3ghz
4Gb 800mhz DDR2
ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe
ATI 4870 512mb

Or any tips to make what i have now better :)

Thanks in advance :D
 
1. Nah, not really.

You are still dumping 200W of heat into water, while the radiator disposes of it. Over time it'll reach an equilibrium where the heat being added to the water is equal to the heat being disposed of by the loop. The equilibrium will take longer to be reached, but will not dissipate much more heat.

The two gains from this would both be very marginal. The heat disposed of by the loop would increase by how well the new res acts as a rad. I.e. naff all.

The water would have a higher capacity for heat, so since it takes longer to reach equilibrium (at any point before equilibrium it's at a lower temperature). Thus it's possible you put the PC under load, and the load finishes before the water reaches equilibrium. It's pretty pointless though, because if you relied on this to get higher clocks, or to turn down the fans your PC would crash if you had it on load too long. Perhaps if the radiator fan was temperature sensitive (connect it to the CPU fan header on your motherboard maybe) then you might get a little bit more quiet from it. But we're talking tiny little gains.

2. Big effect.
3. Push/pull is overrated. Loads and loads of people think it's a great idea. It isn't.. Cathar is the God of watercooling. Anything he says can be taken as fact. :P
 
3. Push/pull is overrated. Loads and loads of people think it's a great idea. It isn't.. Cathar is the God of watercooling. Anything he says can be taken as fact. :P[/QUOTE]

Not true, this is old,
The bigger the rad the better the gain with a push pull setup.
 
The Halk said:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2308194&postcount=116

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2309309&postcount=126

That's much more recent. It's from the testing Cathar did last year into various different fans etc.
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Sorry to contradict you but only yesterday in my research on rads push/pull
gave a significant benefit when using larger rads.

I will give you a link when i have time to look for, i am at this moment getting advice for my first w/c setup. Sorry that i do not remember it off top of my head

Benefits only larger rads mind you, not if you are using single rad.
 
Halk, your link is the one that i meant. Great, that means i don't have to look for it.

Am i right or am i right.


x temperature with both push/pull and push and pull.
It will obviously increase noise level, but that is what fan controllers are for, viola.
 
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moremoney said:
Halk, your link is the one that i meant. Great, that means i don't have to look for it.

Am i right or am i right.


x temperature with both push/pull and push and pull.
It will obviously increase noise level, but that is what fan controllers are for, viola.
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I don't read it that way.

Sure performance is increased with 2 fans rather than 1. But by how much? And if you're going to mitigate it by reducing fan speeds then what Cathar investigated comes into play... As per what Cathar said you'd be better off with 1 fan running faster than 2 fans running slower. The only time I think it'd be worthwhile is if you had 3 Deltas and you still needed more. I can't think of a time when that would be the case :)
 
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