Still, maybe it was the way they set them up in a rush but I wanted it to fill the room and it certainly didn't, he said let's try another movie and realised he didn't have anything else but Spiderman. I'll visit another RS when I'm back in a week, hopefully by then RS could have some more Speakers in there range between £250-350.
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Still, maybe it was the way they set them up in a rush but I wanted it to fill the room and it certainly didn't, he said let's try another movie and realised he didn't have anything else but Spiderman. I'll visit another RS when I'm back in a week, hopefully by then RS could have some more Speakers in there range between £250-350.
I've got the MA Vectors paired with a Yamaha RX-V675. The MA's are quite bright to start with and don't seem to have a lot of bass, but after running them in for several weeks the sound was superb. From all the reviews the Yamahas are quite warm and I would say they pair up really well.
I use them for movies, music and games and could hear things that I couldn't on the older Technics system they replaced.
I can't compare them to a speaker system costing thousands, but all I can say is the sound once run in will be way better than the all in one you are coming from. The two together cost a lot of money for me and I haven't had any regrets about the purchase.
I use them for movies, music and games and could hear things that I couldn't on the older Technics system they replaced.
I can't compare them to a speaker system costing thousands, but all I can say is the sound once run in will be way better than the all in one you are coming from. The two together cost a lot of money for me and I haven't had any regrets about the purchase.
Ah, nice. The two of them will cost me around £440. Have you experienced any issues with the Subwoofer, any 'hum' sounds? I read this online, a few user reviews but they may just be unlucky.
How much volume is enough when your playing your movies/music now that the Speakers are ran in? What's the maximum you normally set the volume at?
Ha ha, really? I'd laugh if it was that simple, maybe some figured it out. Is it some sort of interference problem with the sub cable and power cable? Or maybe cheap cables all together.
You mentioned that buying this one blindly is crazy, but I've searched everywhere and only that place has it for that price, can't demo them anywhere.
The percentage volume scale is linear. It's not a good way of representing the change in volume.
Here's a quick sketch to illustrate the relationship between the linear volume scale and what's happening with amplifier power. I've taken a little artistic license with the figures to illustrate the point.
Volume and the way the volume control works is better represented by the red curve - it's logarithmic. A 6dB increase means twice the amount of power being used from the amp. At the bottom end of the volume range the power is still doubling, but it's doubling very small amounts. The linear percentage scale shows big changes; you could go from 0 to 50% and not hear much change. As the red curve starts to tilt up then the effect of doubling the power becomes more significant. But it's only in the last 20-25% of the linear scale range where our ears perceive the biggest changes. The closer to 100% the greater the volume increase. So once again, the linear percentage scale is a poor indicator. The last 5% of the linear scale might account for 90% of the amplifier's power range.
Having an amp that seems relatively quiet at 75% of the linear range isn't such a big problem. Most of the power is yet to be delivered.
There are lots of factors affecting volume (or, more accurately, sound pressure level), but some arbitrary percentage volume bar isn't really one of them
No problem with hum from the sub. I've changed the fuse a few times but that's been when on son's been home from uni. He turns the base up on everything.
I don't really look at the volume level readout, it only shows when it's changing. I just set it to the volume I want.
I don't really look at the volume level readout, it only shows when it's changing. I just set it to the volume I want.
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Yeah it's all to do with the db
I run audyssey calibration on my avr and it set most speakers to about - 5 to - 10 and it's plenty loud enough at around 55% due to distance from my listening area if the speaker levels were in the +db it would probably blow my socks off at 55%
Its all to do with how the speakers are set up
I run audyssey calibration on my avr and it set most speakers to about - 5 to - 10 and it's plenty loud enough at around 55% due to distance from my listening area if the speaker levels were in the +db it would probably blow my socks off at 55%
Its all to do with how the speakers are set up
You can ignore the lower frequency of the satellites - the crossover in the amp sends the frequencies below a certain level (usually 100Hz) to the sub only. The MAs might do 60Hz, but they won't receive a signal that low unless you disable the sub, or you're playing stereo music in pure/direct mode.
If you don't know what 100Hz sounds like, google it and you'll likely find a youtube clip of it.
Dinzi Don't take this the wrong way but you are looking at spending £300 - £400 on an amp and speaker package, at that price range there wont be a massive amount of difference between the gear in that price range.
I've read the few threads you have on av forums and its getting to the point now where people can't really help you out anymore as pretty much everything has been answered as best as it can be, you want to watch blu rays and listen to some music, any +£150 amp and any +£200 will be fine im sure and you would be hard put to notice any difference between brands at that point.
For example in my living room I have a PIONEER VSX323 with Tannoy tfx and in my bedroom hooked upto my pc I have an old YamahaRX-V359 and old teufel speakers and to be honest I cant really tell any difference between the two
I've read the few threads you have on av forums and its getting to the point now where people can't really help you out anymore as pretty much everything has been answered as best as it can be, you want to watch blu rays and listen to some music, any +£150 amp and any +£200 will be fine im sure and you would be hard put to notice any difference between brands at that point.
For example in my living room I have a PIONEER VSX323 with Tannoy tfx and in my bedroom hooked upto my pc I have an old YamahaRX-V359 and old teufel speakers and to be honest I cant really tell any difference between the two
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Buying speakers based upon specifications is really daft. They can be used to match up a decent rated amp but other then that are pretty irrelevant to the end result.
These speakers cost nearly £2000 on a popular hifi website:-
Frequency response (Hz) 56 - 22000
Nominal impedance (ohms) 8
Sensitivity (dB) 89
These speakers cost £130 on the same website:-
Frequency response (Hz) 35 - 20,000
Nominal impedance (ohms) 8
Sensitivity (dB) 93
Please just make a decision as people have mentioned ideally you need to listen to these things failing that a bit of research and a few opinions with a knowledge of what sort of sound you like, this sort of thing should only take a week maximum!
As people have mentioned any £200 AVR will go loud enough.
These speakers cost nearly £2000 on a popular hifi website:-
Frequency response (Hz) 56 - 22000
Nominal impedance (ohms) 8
Sensitivity (dB) 89
These speakers cost £130 on the same website:-
Frequency response (Hz) 35 - 20,000
Nominal impedance (ohms) 8
Sensitivity (dB) 93
Please just make a decision as people have mentioned ideally you need to listen to these things failing that a bit of research and a few opinions with a knowledge of what sort of sound you like, this sort of thing should only take a week maximum!
As people have mentioned any £200 AVR will go loud enough.
The percentage volume scale is linear. It's not a good way of representing the change in volume.
Here's a quick sketch to illustrate the relationship between the linear volume scale and what's happening with amplifier power. I've taken a little artistic license with the figures to illustrate the point.
Volume and the way the volume control works is better represented by the red curve - it's logarithmic. A 6dB increase means twice the amount of power being used from the amp. At the bottom end of the volume range the power is still doubling, but it's doubling very small amounts. The linear percentage scale shows big changes; you could go from 0 to 50% and not hear much change. As the red curve starts to tilt up then the effect of doubling the power becomes more significant. But it's only in the last 20-25% of the linear scale range where our ears perceive the biggest changes. The closer to 100% the greater the volume increase. So once again, the linear percentage scale is a poor indicator. The last 5% of the linear scale might account for 90% of the amplifier's power range.
Having an amp that seems relatively quiet at 75% of the linear range isn't such a big problem. Most of the power is yet to be delivered.
There are lots of factors affecting volume (or, more accurately, sound pressure level), but some arbitrary percentage volume bar isn't really one of them
Makes sense, thanks mate, appreciate it!
The only thing I don't believe is at 75% most power is yet to be delivered, hmm. But, people do tell me that they very rarely have to go in the + ranges.
Also, lucid of Monitor Audio Vector 5.1, Tannoy HTS 101 and Wharfedale DX-1 HCP what you rate in 1,2,3?
You can go by brand name or personal experience if you know these Speakers.
I'm on Holiday at the moment, but I'm planning to order the Speakers before I arrive so it's there ready.
So we said the Monitor Audio Vectors, fail that, go for the Whatfedale's?
I'm definitely going for Yamaha RX-V676 for future 7.1 setup, ain't checked RS for a few days.
So we said the Monitor Audio Vectors, fail that, go for the Whatfedale's?
I'm definitely going for Yamaha RX-V676 for future 7.1 setup, ain't checked RS for a few days.
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I understand your scepticism.
What I would say is think about those speaker dB efficiency figures e.g. 90dB/1W/m It means that at just 1 Watt power from the amp, and measured from 1 metre from the speaker, then that speaker would produce 90dB of sound. That's loud! And it's just one Watt, not 50 or 100.
Well the Vectors were originally released to sell at £800+....
I just realised that the Whatfedale DX-1's have gone down to £299, decent price from £340.
I might be able to get the Q Acoustics 2000i for £350, fail that I'll go for the Vectors at £300.
I would go for the Vectors first time, but afraid of the Sub's 'hum' sound and obviously the Q Acoustics 2000i are better than the Vectors I think.
I might be able to get the Q Acoustics 2000i for £350, fail that I'll go for the Vectors at £300.
I would go for the Vectors first time, but afraid of the Sub's 'hum' sound and obviously the Q Acoustics 2000i are better than the Vectors I think.
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I know I started out comparing All-In-Ones, then AVs I've decided to go for Yamaha RX-V675 it's only Speakers that's a dilemma. But I now think it's between Q Acoustics I can maybe get for £350 or MA Vectors for £300 or Whatfedale DX-1 for £300.
I'm on Holiday now that's why it wasn't a priority before.
I'm on Holiday now that's why it wasn't a priority before.
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Did someone not give you the solution to the sub hum, think they said just don't place the power lead close to the sub lead, plus you do have warranty on new items
My mistake it's the Q Acoustics '2000' of 2010 not the '2000i' of 2013.