Help! Computer is Poorly

EvoFq3o0

EvoFq3o0

EvoFq3o0

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Hello I'm really hoping someone can help me fathom out what the problem is here as it's driving me insane, I'll try to explain each step so far.

My PC spec:
Windows 10 Pro 64bit
I7 2600k @3800Ghz
16Gb Corsair Vengance @1600Mhz
Gigabyte Z77-DS3H (Cheap replacement)
Palit Geforce GTX Titan X 12GB
1 x 120Gb Crucial M2 SSD
2 x Corsair Force 3 60Gb SSD
1 x 2TB Seagate HDD
XFX 650w XXX Edition PSU

So on Sunday night after getting home I went and turned my on PC and it powered on but with all fans at 100% and didn't provide any bios screen, I pressed reset and the power button but nothing worked so had to resort to turning off the power at the mains, once turned back on the PC came straight back on without the use of the power button but again still nothing.

I thought maybe the motherboard had died because it was a cheap replacement so having a nosey in the case I noticed the power supply making a strange noise like clicking, so turned it off and unplugged a few things and tried again.

so putting it down to a faulty PSU I borrowed an old 750W corsair from a mate to try, everything booted up and I was pretty chuffed, now this power supply was quite noisey so I went close to have a listen and reaching down I touched the back of the case where the GPU exhausts and it was red hot, the chassis of the card was hot too, but I was just sat in windows at the desktop, so i checked temps and it was at 63C idle and the fan was still at idle speeds. Thinking the PSU had taken out the card I took it to ** please do not mention competitors ** and they have come back to me as the card is working fine after testing.

So I thought I'd try the PC using just onboard graphics, where it booted to windows, proceeded to auto install the intel drivers and instantly shut off, it started again on its own and made it to the windows logo and shut back off again. this is as far as it gets now and i cant even boot to pen drive.

I can stay in bios all night fine, voltages and temps are normal, I've reset bios and updated to the latest firmware but the machine just shuts off at the same point trying to load windows, I'm yet to stick the card back in and see if it boots with that in again.

I'm not sure if it's motherboard, memory or this borrowed PSU.
But something caused my GPU to run hot at idle and I'm really stuck as I can't afford to replace everything.

Thanks in Advance.
 
Have you scanned for Malware? I've read about bit mining malware which suck the GPU usage which has that exact effect.

Sounds very much like a faulty PSU but further investigations are required to identify the cause I think :)

Also, have you installed MSI AB and checked the GPU usage that way?
 
Thanks for your reply Snips86x, I hadn't considered that, but can't get into windows currently so going to struggle at the minute.

I checked the temps in MSi AB but didn't notice the usage, would something like that not have made the fans spin up?

Would you think this old power supply I've borrowed could be faulty too? or just the Gigabyte board doesn't like it.
 
Regarding the temp.. exhaust at 63 should feel hot to the touch (red hot is obviously subjective though), but could it be that the temp probe on your CPU has failed and so it's not spinning up the fans to cool it down?

Maybe when you installed your replacement MB you shorted something on it (is it touching the case?).

Recommendation would be to unplug everything (including the HDDs and M2) and try to boot to linux on a usb stick..

If that makes no difference then i'd say the issue is with the CPU, PSU or motherboard.

Also worth checking if the RAM is properly seated or using just 1 stick in various positions.
 
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Thanks Bantu, yeh it should feel hot but not at idle, the whole card was hot.

Sorry the board was a cheap replacement but I should have explained the board has been in a year already.

I've just collected the card back from ** Please do not mention competitors ** , they have confirmed the card ran hot and had a high idle but not enough to warrant them to change it. they will RMA with palit which would take a month or so, Peace of mind to know there is an issue with the card not caused by said psu or motherboard.

now the test is to see if the Pc will boot again with the gpu back in. if not I'll try unplugging the drives.
 
Yes my drivers are up to date, just recently actually...

I need to check usage and vram tonight, you thinking maybe the latest could have caused something?

hate when a few things happen and nothing makes sense.
 
Right so back home and testing a few things, firstly the PC boots as normal with the titan back in! thank god for that! . so no booting was down to onboard gpu.

Titan vitals are:

Core temp:62C
Fan speed: 22% / 1050rpm
Core voltage: 1.012v
Power usage: 29%
Core usage: 1%
memoryusage: 0%
Core clock: 1001Mhz (should this not be low?)
Memory clock: 3505Mhz

Just to show other temps, CPU 22C System 26C Room Temp 15C
 
62c at idle is very high, and 22% fan speed doesnt seem right. Iirc all recent nvidia cards have a minimum of 40% at idle. The only exceptions being the aftermarket cooled cards that feature zero fan technology. Something that isnt available on the titan x. Idle clockspeed on the card is high too, my gtx 980ti in sig will run at 900mhz if my swift monitor is set to 144Hz reresh rate. At 120Hz or lower it runs at 135mhz.
 
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Solved it :)

Rollback of the drivers!

idle: 32C
Core speed: 135Mhz
Memory Clock: 405Mhz
Core Voltage 0.856V

Bloody latest Nvidia drivers!!

Because it came at the time my PSU died, got me thinking it over volted my titan. Thanks Nvidia for making me look a fool.

Cheers guys for your help.
 
EvoFq3o0 said:
Solved it :)

Rollback of the drivers!

idle: 32C
Core speed: 135Mhz
Memory Clock: 405Mhz
Core Voltage 0.856V

Bloody latest Nvidia drivers!!

Because it came at the time my PSU died, got me thinking it over volted my titan. Thanks Nvidia for making me look a fool.

Cheers guys for your help.
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Yar just read this and thought I had seem others say on the net about heat issues with a driver update.. bet you well happy it's sorted :)
 
Yes really chuffed! starting to wonder if my XFX PSU is really faulty or if the drivers resulted in a non booting system too.
 
Your PSU is most likely crackered...

Unless i have read something wrong you said you your first issues from a cold boot - before drivers are even loaded.

This, and the fact is was clicking leads me to believe that your PSU was also faulty.
 
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