Help me stop the obscenities.

Idleman · 5 Apr 2013 at 10:28

If you are going to go Trinity, then a better mobo and faster ram will give you better graphics, surely.

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD580KWOHJBOX) £99.95
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00403) £79.99
1 x Gigabyte F2A85XM-D3H AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 micro ATX Motherboard £61.99
1 x TeamGroup Xtreem LV 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (TXD38G2133HC11DC01) £49.99
1 x **B Grade** Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (S (HD-257-SE) £45
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020046-UK) £40.99
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £442.00 (includes shipping : £11.75).

Smutley · 5 Apr 2013 at 12:31

I've done a bit of digging around while the teenager slumbers.

The PSU is rated a 350W, so I think that will need to be trashed.

The DVD drive is made by Hitachi>

http://www.geeks.com/largePic_all.asp?invtid=BLK-GH15F-DO-R&pic=BLK-GH15F-DO-R-unit.jpg

The GPU is the nVidia Geforce GT 520 1024mb DDR3.

Bacon? · 5 Apr 2013 at 12:37

£500:

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785F1G2M) £127.99
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £92.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00403) £79.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-GEN3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 (MB-380-GI) £52
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £49.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020058-UK) £39.98
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x **B Grade** Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-252-SE) £30
Total : £520.03 (includes shipping : £11.75).

Eat my lard

Idleman · 5 Apr 2013 at 12:47

Bacon? said:
£500:

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785F1G2M) £127.99
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £92.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00403) £79.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-GEN3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 (MB-380-GI) £52
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £49.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020058-UK) £39.98
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x **B Grade** Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-252-SE) £30
Total : £520.03 (includes shipping : £11.75).

Eat my lard

Just have to hope the Z68 has the bios update for IB.

Idleman · 5 Apr 2013 at 13:19

Just thought I chuck this in the mix.

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785F1G2M) £127.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00403) £79.99
1 x **B Grade** AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 960T Black Edition "95W Edition" 3.00GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £69.95
1 x **B Grade** ASRock 970 Extreme3 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 ATX (MB-068-AK) £65.99
1 x **B Grade** Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (S (HD-257-SE) £45
1 x Xigmatek Tauro 500W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £43.99
1 x Avexir Core Blue Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CW) - Blue Light £40
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black £32.99
Total : £520.00 (includes shipping : £11.75).

Akagi · 5 Apr 2013 at 15:16

Ah yes, I forgot just for a moment that Trinity benefits from faster RAM.

Tiredness

Good Trinity spec Idleman. I would personally spend the extra £6 and get the 1TB Toshiba 7K1000.D though, simply because of the warranty and because it is a faster drive, so it might help in the absence of an SSD.

I'm liking Bacons spec for that price though, but as Idleman said, it's only any good if the board has a bios revision that allows it to take Ivybridge chips.

I don't feel like we are being particularly helpful as a collective. We are all chucking tonnes of different ideas out there and expecting the OP to pick one. We can't seem to agree among ourselves...

I think really, the only two that deserve serious consideration are Bacons i3 + 7850 option (if the board takes IB chips, I'll try and find this out in a mo) and Idlemans Trinity option (though personally I would add the Toshiba drive for the aforementioned reasons, and put it in an M-ATX case.)

Thoughts anyone?

Smutley · 5 Apr 2013 at 15:26

Thanks for all the info, my head is spinning at the moment.

Allattar · 5 Apr 2013 at 15:32

I think everyone has missed the obvious...

League of Legends - obscenities...

Come on until you uninstall LoL youll never stop the profanity

Akagi · 5 Apr 2013 at 16:31

Allattar said:
I think everyone has missed the obvious...

League of Legends - obscenities...

Come on until you uninstall LoL youll never stop the profanity

It depends how seriously he takes it. I personally only play LoL to pass the time occasionally

Bacon? · 5 Apr 2013 at 16:40

Well Acme and Idleman. The motherboard I specc'd is compatible with Ivy CPU's using BIOS F12.

Martini1991 · 5 Apr 2013 at 16:43

I must tell my brother he's wasting his time while he games on his Ivy i3 and 7870 given by this thread.

I'd probably go Idlemans build, but with an FX6300 personally.

Bacon? said:
Well Acme and Idleman. The motherboard I specc'd is compatible with Ivy CPU's using BIOS F12.

Every socket 1155 is fully capable of taking every single 1155 chip, including the Xeons, just to back you up.

thenameDS · 5 Apr 2013 at 16:50

League of Legends.. worst gaming community in the world every other game you get a troll or kids screaming and swearing. Saying that I do play it all the time but only with friends

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With that budget I would recommend a Trinity build, my friend got a fairly cheap £350-£400 pc and a 1440x900 monitor and runs the game on high at 60fps. If your son is in uni or knows anyone in uni you could get a free copy of Windows 7 or 8 providing their uni has the dreamspark premium program.

Smutley · 5 Apr 2013 at 16:57

It's not the game that drives him to despair, it's the PC. He only plays with friends and when the PC is doing more mundane tasks the house is very quiet,

Unfortunately I have a few years left before I can wave him goodbye to uni.

Akagi · 5 Apr 2013 at 16:59

Martini1991 said:
I must tell my brother he's wasting his time while he games on his Ivy i3 and 7870 given by this thread.

That is not what was said. It has been said that it is overkill for playing league of legends.

Akagi · 5 Apr 2013 at 17:00

Martini1991 said:
Every socket 1155 is fully capable of taking every single 1155 chip, including the Xeons, just to back you up.

Only if the BIOS supports it. Theres no point buying an older motherboard with an Ivybridge CPU if you have no Sandybridge CPU to use when updating the BIOS now is there?

Akagi · 5 Apr 2013 at 17:01

thenameDS said:
With that budget I would recommend a Trinity build, my friend got a fairly cheap £350-£400 pc and a 1440x900 monitor and runs the game on high at 60fps.

<3

elmuzzy66. · 5 Apr 2013 at 18:20

With that budget i would look to get used parts but trinity seems the way to go.

thenameDS · 5 Apr 2013 at 18:23

He might appreciate a cool case.
YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD580KWOHJBOX) £99.95
1 x ASRock FM2A75M-ITX AMD A75 Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 Mini ITX Motherboard £71.99
1 x BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ITX Cube Case - Midnight Black £69.95
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual CHannel Kit (PV38G213C1K) £65.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £51.95
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020058-UK) £39.98
Total : £413.30 (includes shipping : £11.25).

Enough money to add in a OS although you can get a Windows 8 Enterprise Evaluation that lasts 90 days. So maybe add in a graphic card.

Akagi · 5 Apr 2013 at 18:36

Slightly tweaked version of the above, faster RAM

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD580KWOHJBOX) £99.95
1 x ASRock FM2A75M-ITX AMD A75 Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 Mini ITX Motherboard £71.99
1 x BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ITX Cube Case - Midnight Black £69.95
1 x GeIL EVO Veloce Hot-Rod Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEV38GB2400C11ADC) £69.95
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £51.95
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020058-UK) £39.98
Total : £417.26 (includes shipping : £11.25).

Alternative cases

It is a fair amount more expensive than a regular M-ATX trinity build though when you factor in the OS.

I still think that Bacon?s spec is the best one here for around the £500 - £550 mark, and Idlemans Trinity build is the best one here for around the £400 - £450 mark.

Bacon? · 5 Apr 2013 at 18:41

And in the orangey, black and pink corner with the Prodigy is Acme slugging it out against his partners including the Ghost