HELP NEEDED - Build for my friends son... challenging..

[Barron2110]

Hi Guys, hope you are all well.

I was speaking to my friend last week and she was telling me her son would like a gaming pc for Christmas. And she said her and partner didn't have a clue about it. I said I would offer them some help as I had built my last few pcs and would kind of get him what he needed. This is when the challenge kicked in. He's got a bit of specific list, because of his autism he's planned it all out and has heart set on it so there isn't a whole load of flex. And he also requires a Monitor & windows, keyboard, mouse to boot. Then the challenging part comes. Budget is tight, like super tight. "Gaming PC" would be loosely used as it would be mainly used to play COD, Fortnite, PUBG and stuff along those lines with his friends. He also wants to stream his game play so his friends can watch. Budget is £700 and hoped the Black Friday sales might help with this. However I've warned them this wont be by any means a high end gaming pc but it wont be crappy either. And was looking down the lines of AMD Ryzen and probably go air cooled to save £60-100 on a water block which would pay for windows. I've threw a quick spec together while at work and I've came in at £767.86. Wondering if you guys can help trim it down and if you's are absolute super stars maybe get some RGB lighting in there too.

Like I say i threw this together really quick havent 100% checked the compatibility and I have no experience of AMD builds so any helps would be great to make this little mans christmas extra special Thanks <3

PS Just noticed I forgot the GFX card too.....man this is gunna be hard...

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Aerocool Cylon RGB Midi Tower - Black= £35.99
• 1 x AMD Bundle - AMD Ryzen 5 2600, Asus X370-F Strix, Team Group RAM *FREE 240GB SSD* *ONLINE ONLY* = £361.97
  • Memory Capacity:Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G3000
• 1 x Cooler Master MasterAir MA410P RGB CPU Tower Cooler= £19.99
• 1 x Microsoft Windows 10 64-Bit DVD - OEM (MS-KW9-00139)= £109.99
• 1 x **B Grade** Seagate BarraCuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - OEM (ST2000DM006)= £44.99
• 1 x BenQ GW2270H 22" 1920x1080 VA Widescreen LED Flicker-Free Slim Bezel Monitor - Black= £89.99
• 1 x Kolink KL-500M 500W 80 Plus Bronze Modular Power Supply= £39.95
• 1 x Steelseries Keyboard and Mouse Rare Bundle - Rival 110 Mouse and Apex 150 Keyboard= £64.99

Total: £781.06 (includes shipping: £13.20)​

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[4K8KW10]

Hi,

All well, except the hard drive being grade B. Hard disk is the last PC component that I'd buy as an B grade part

And need a graphics card.

 

[Barron2110]

Hi,

All well, except the hard drive being grade B. Hard disk is the last PC component that I'd buy as an B grade part

And need a graphics card.

Yeah just realized it as i posted. Ok was just a thought to try save some cash... what parts would you recommend?

 

[4K8KW10]

Yeah just realized it as i posted. Ok was just a thought to try save some cash... what parts would you recommend?

The same as these of your choice, plus RX 570 graphics card, and a cheaper Windows copy from somewhere.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Aerocool Cylon RGB Midi Tower - Black= £35.99
• 1 x Kolink KL-500M 500W 80 Plus Bronze Modular Power Supply= £39.95
• 1 x AMD Bundle - AMD Ryzen 5 2600, Asus X370-F Strix, Team Group RAM *FREE 240GB SSD* *ONLINE ONLY* = £361.97
  • Memory Capacity:Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G3000
• 1 x BenQ GW2270H 22" 1920x1080 VA Widescreen LED Flicker-Free Slim Bezel Monitor - Black= £89.99
• 1 x MSI Radeon RX 570 ARMOR OC 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £158.99
• 1 x WD 1TB Blue 7200rpm 64MB Cache Internal Hard Drive (WD10EZEX)= £38.99
• 1 x Logitech MK120 Keyboard and Mouse Desktop Set (920-002552)= £17.99

Total: £757.07 (includes shipping: £13.20)​

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[lee32uk]

Tough budget that for everything

Maybe @orbitalwalsh can come up with something better.

No Windows but you can download a copy from Microsoft and use it for free to start with. Then buy a product key later on.

Also no HDD but a 480GB SSD will get him started.

You could go for the R7 1700 for an extra £10 and drop the cooler, but I don't know how well the board would cope with an 8 core cpu.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Aerocool Cylon RGB Midi Tower - Black= £35.99
• 1 x be quiet! System Power 9 500W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply= £54.95
• 1 x SPEEDLINK Desktop Gaming Bundle - Mouse, Keyboard, Headset and Mouse Mat= £29.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 570 Gaming 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £149.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G3000= £52.99
• 1 x TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £56.99
• 1 x AOC G2260VWQ6 22" 1920x1080 TN FREESYNC 1ms Gaming Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red= £89.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B450M-DS3H AMD B450 (Socket AM4) DDR4 Micro-ATX Motherboard= £69.95
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600X 4.00GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £139.99
• 1 x Cryorig M9A Single Tower Heatsink for AMD= £15.95

Total: £696.78 (includes shipping: £0.00)​

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[PiKe]

^ just use the stock heatsink, no point getting anything else if the intention is to go AIO eventually.

 

[lee32uk]

^ just use the stock heatsink, no point getting anything else if the intention is to go AIO eventually.

Can't on my spec. No cooler with the 1600X.

 

[PiKe]

What about the 1500x then do a mild overclock?

 

[lee32uk]

What about the 1500x then do a mild overclock?

That only saves £20 on the cpu and you are dropping from a 6 core/12 thread to 4 core/8 thread. As game streaming is being done then the 6 core would be better. The prices on Ryzen are a bit messy at the minute i.e The R5 2400G is the same price as the R7 1700 which is just nuts.

 

[4K8KW10]

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x MSI Radeon RX 570 ARMOR OC 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £158.99
• 1 x WD 1TB Blue 7200rpm 64MB Cache Internal Hard Drive (WD10EZEX)= £38.99
• 1 x Aerocool Cylon RGB Midi Tower - Black= £35.99
• 1 x be quiet! System Power 9 500W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply= £54.95
• 1 x SPEEDLINK Desktop Gaming Bundle - Mouse, Keyboard, Headset and Mouse Mat= £29.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G3000= £52.99
• 1 x TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £56.99
• 1 x AOC G2260VWQ6 22" 1920x1080 TN FREESYNC 1ms Gaming Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red= £89.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1700 3.70GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £149.99
• 1 x MSI B450M Gaming Plus (Socket AM4) DDR4 mATX Motherboard= £77.99

Total: £759.46 (includes shipping: £12.60)​

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[Lartyconshayo]

You can use Windows 10 legally without activating. So could install and it will run fine. Can't set desktop wallpaper with unactivated - not sure if a deal breaker.

 

[Barron2110]

This looks pretty solid. Should stream okay? and run those games to a decent level i would think?

His birthday is 29th Dec so can use some of his birthday money towards the windows upgrade that is no problem.

Tough budget that for everything

Maybe @orbitalwalsh can come up with something better.

No Windows but you can download a copy from Microsoft and use it for free to start with. Then buy a product key later on.

Also no HDD but a 480GB SSD will get him started.

You could go for the R7 1700 for an extra £10 and drop the cooler, but I don't know how well the board would cope with an 8 core cpu.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Aerocool Cylon RGB Midi Tower - Black= £35.99
• 1 x be quiet! System Power 9 500W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply= £54.95
• 1 x SPEEDLINK Desktop Gaming Bundle - Mouse, Keyboard, Headset and Mouse Mat= £29.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 570 Gaming 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £149.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G3000= £52.99
• 1 x TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £56.99
• 1 x AOC G2260VWQ6 22" 1920x1080 TN FREESYNC 1ms Gaming Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red= £89.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B450M-DS3H AMD B450 (Socket AM4) DDR4 Micro-ATX Motherboard= £69.95
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600X 4.00GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £139.99
• 1 x Cryorig M9A Single Tower Heatsink for AMD= £15.95

Total: £696.78 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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[lee32uk]

This looks pretty solid. Should stream okay? and run those games to a decent level i would think?

His birthday is 29th Dec so can use some of his birthday money towards the windows upgrade that is no problem.

It should be fine. An 8 core would do even better though, but it depends if the Gigabyte board in my spec could handle it ok. You could ask ocuk for their opinion. The RX 570 is a decent gpu for 1080p gaming.

The R7 1700 is an extra £10 more but it comes with a stock cooler so you could remove the Cryorig M9A.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1700 3.70GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £149.99

Total: £158.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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If they can stretch to a better board then the MSI Tomahawk is pretty good. Out of stock at the moment though.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x MSI B450 TOMAHAWK (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £99.95

Total: £110.45 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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[orbitalwalsh]

Tough budget that for everything

Maybe @orbitalwalsh can come up with something better.

No Windows but you can download a copy from Microsoft and use it for free to start with. Then buy a product key later on.

Also no HDD but a 480GB SSD will get him started.

You could go for the R7 1700 for an extra £10 and drop the cooler, but I don't know how well the board would cope with an 8 core cpu.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Aerocool Cylon RGB Midi Tower - Black= £35.99
• 1 x be quiet! System Power 9 500W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply= £54.95
• 1 x SPEEDLINK Desktop Gaming Bundle - Mouse, Keyboard, Headset and Mouse Mat= £29.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 570 Gaming 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £149.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G3000= £52.99
• 1 x TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £56.99
• 1 x AOC G2260VWQ6 22" 1920x1080 TN FREESYNC 1ms Gaming Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red= £89.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B450M-DS3H AMD B450 (Socket AM4) DDR4 Micro-ATX Motherboard= £69.95
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600X 4.00GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £139.99
• 1 x Cryorig M9A Single Tower Heatsink for AMD= £15.95

Total: £696.78 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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pretty solid mate

 

[Barron2110]

pretty solid mate

Would the gigabyte board handle a 8 core ok? tempted to just throw in the additional cash on their budget to get him a little bit extra

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Would the gigabyte board handle a 8 core ok? tempted to just throw in the additional cash on their budget to get him a little bit extra

if you can stretch - top end x370 boards , better VRMs then B450 boards

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-554-gi.html

 

[Barron2110]

if you can stretch - top end x370 boards , better VRMs then B450 boards

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-554-gi.html

Probably not without cutting something else out of the system. Would the current mobo run the 8 core ok? or is it worth just sticking with the orginal quoted?

 

[4K8KW10]

Probably not without cutting something else out of the system. Would the current mobo run the 8 core ok? or is it worth just sticking with the orginal quoted?

It can be a 1000-core processor, what matters is the power consumption which is only 65W for the 8-core Ryzen 7.

 

[lee32uk]

Probably not without cutting something else out of the system. Would the current mobo run the 8 core ok? or is it worth just sticking with the orginal quoted?

In my opinion the 6 core R5 2600 should do fine for a bit of streaming. The 8700K is considered a good cpu for that and it is also a 6 core/12 thread cpu. I wouldn't like to say go with the 1700 and it then starts to cause issues. Obviously you could check with ocuk and get their opinion if you wanted.

Only other thing you might want to add is a cheap fan or two for the front as that case only comes with 1 rear fan. You would need 1 or 2 for the front for some airflow. The board only has a single fan header so you would also need a fan splitter cable.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 2 x Aerocool Dark Force Fan - Black - 140mm= £3.95
• 1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Cable Y-Splitter 3-Fan PWM (10cm)= £2.99

Total: £16.91 (includes shipping: £6.02)
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[Barron2110]

Appreciate the help boys. Gunna have one happy boy for Christmas. Told his mam and dad you guys would have some solutions