Help needed – Dangerous tyres (Possible 2x sets of left tyres installed

Sadly you asked a tyre fitter for a budget tyre and this is exactly what you got. The C grip rating is largely meaningless anyway, but either way isn't 'very good'. Not sure they look directional from the pics either.
 
Thanks for the reply Fox.

Fair comment, But surly they should be better than what they are? for these to even be sold they should have gone through several tests? I've NEVER had tyre that are so bad. Understeering at 10 / 15 MPH round a corner?

I've had tyres right down on tread that preforms better.

And what if they do turn out to be directional tyres?
 
They aren't directional, they're just crap. A bit like that tyre fitter if he seemingly can't work his balancing machine properly!

Usually wet driving is where cheap nasty chinese ditchfinders really do set themselves apart from other more established tyre brands.

Toyo/Kumho/Avon/other acceptable cheap brands are usually classed as "mid range" by most tyre fitters really.
 
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yes. i have nearly wrecked my mondeo with Chinese tyres. that just have 0 grip in the wet. they are fine in the dry which gives you a false sense of security. in your case you have asked for them so its sort of your own fault.
 
Always specify the exact tyres that you want fitted.



I've been left with "Sagitar P307's" before, also on a Mondeo, as you say it's like driving with diesel allover the road, wheel spinning out of junctions & basically sliding everywhere at ridiculously slow speeds.

Switched to a full set of Goodyears a few weeks later and it's like a different car in the rain, nice & predictable. No more sliding around.
 
A quick google suggests that directional tyres that have arrow marking should be facing the direction of rotation moving forward as incorrect fitment gives the problems you've been having.

If the directional arrows are facing backwards it seems it will effect wet driving performance.
 
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I had a quick look on blackcircles. On their cheapest tyres there was a difference in price of £13 for fitted vs not fitted.

If you're paying £37 per corner (fitted.. what the hell did you expect), then that works out at £24 per tyre. I think the offer of £15 per tyre was fair, considering he'd have to remove them and fit others.

I'm not really sure where you're going to get with this, sounds like hassle / messing about for no real gain.

Did ATS say anything about the tyres being fitted wrong?

If a directional tyre is fitted the wrong way round, the tyre won't be dangerous, but you won't gain any of the benefits of it's design.

Incorrect fitting of both asymmetric and directional tyres is a reason for MOT failure.
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http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/safety/directional-and-asymmetric-tyres.html
 
I have never understood why people skimp on tyres. Those four pieces of rubber are the only contact point between your car and the road, and hence absolutely critical to both safety and enjoyment.

You agreed a frankly ridiculously cheap price for four tyres fitted, and are now wondering why they are crap.

Get some decent tyres and learn for the future.
 
sillyimpulse said:
Guys, again, I did not ask for budget tyres. I asked for budget mediums. Again, in my mind something like mentioned before. Toyo, Kumho, Avon....
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What you need to bear in mind is most people want a mid range but to pay 20 quid still, so terms like budget medium are only ever going to result in budget tyres. No one will ask for budget low end tyres, so as soon as budget is mentioned, that's what you get.

Not surprising that there was confusion, what you wanted are mid range tyres, nothing budget about them at all.
 
sillyimpulse said:
Guys, again, I did not ask for budget tyres. I asked for budget mediums. Again, in my mind something like mentioned before. Toyo, Kumho, Avon....
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You asked for tyres and agreed to pay £25 per tyre. You didn't check what they were so you're assumptions about what they would be are meaningless. You paid for rubbish tyres and got rubbish tyres.

The tread patterns don't look directional, they look to mirror down the centre line suggesting it doesn't matter which way round they go.

I thought this was a reasonable request so I did just that... Went to a local tyre place and they guy said he could do it for £10... He takes the tyre off and flips it 180 degrees then shouts me over.

He pointed out that it makes no difference if it's flipped and the arrow points the same way (the wrong way)

I then suddenly think he's put 2x sets of left tyres on the car! This would make sense why they literately have no grip.
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If you did have two sets of left tyres on the car then this second tyre fitter would've pointed this out to you.

ATS would've too.

It's hard to find these tyres online, but places I've seen them don't have left or right tyres. Ring some places, get quotes - ask the suppliers. I don't think you'll find left / right tyres.

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It sounds to me like your colleague's husband has stitched you up. It is rare for 3 of 4 tyres to have bulges in them I'd suggest.
 
Looking at your pictures I'd be gobsmacked if they are directional tyres, they look symmetrical to me. If they were directional they would have a really obvious marking like the below to demonstrate which way round they need to go. Even in that case you don't get left and right versions. You just take the tyre off the rim and mount it the other way round and suddenly it rotates the other way.

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iaind said:
Anyone give a TL;dr for that epic post? OP bought crap tyres then is surprised that they're crap?
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Yes, but I think there were some aliens, immigrants and dole dodgers and I suspect ISIS too. Every OCUK needs this, it's a right of passage these days!
 
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