Help needed – Dangerous tyres (Possible 2x sets of left tyres installed

By driving sensibly I meant driving according to road and weather conditions, anticipating what other drivers might do (even if its something stupid) and keeping a reasonable distance from the car in front, you know things that you should be doing anyway regards if you have an old banger with Chinese tyres and crap brakes or if you have 6 pot calipers and top quality tyres.

And like I said its my opinion and you are welcome to disagree as I am sure many others would disagree too. :)

Just because you preface something with 'in my opinion', doesn't give you carte blanch. If a child steps out in front of, when you're driving sensibly, it gets to a point where the only thing that matters is how your tyre behaves.

child killer :mad:
 
I'm sure I saw something a few years back about the difference in stopping distance between cheapos and proper tyres (especially in the wet) and it was massive. Cheapos just don't work as well. I guess people just think a ring of rubber is the same no matter who makes it, and so they think the name is all they are paying for. They don't realise that the modern tyre is a complex thing, not just a big pushbike tyre.

It's the same difference as buying a name brand and a cheap knock-off product.
 
I'm sure I saw something a few years back about the difference in stopping distance between cheapos and proper tyres (especially in the wet) and it was massive. Cheapos just don't work as well. I guess people just think a ring of rubber is the same no matter who makes it, and so they think the name is all they are paying for. They don't realise that the modern tyre is a complex thing, not just a big pushbike tyre.

It's the same difference as buying a name brand and a cheap knock-off product.

This should do it
 
Just because you preface something with 'in my opinion', doesn't give you carte blanch. If a child steps out in front of, when you're driving sensibly, it gets to a point where the only thing that matters is how your tyre behaves.

child killer :mad:

If this, if that, if I was to believe the moral police 6 years ago here on OcUK I'd have crashed multiple times in my first year. Only 2 things I've had happen is someone hitting me into the rear ( and destroying his bumper on my towbar), and a truck who didn't see my in his blind spot and PIT'd me on the motorway. Both not my fault insurance wise. I haven't totalled any car, I haven't landed in a ditch, yes I've occasionally made a mistake and caught a slide, but always managed to save it, or there was enough space for nothing bad to happen.

If you worry about what might happen you might as well stay at home and never get out into traffic :o. Cars used to be much more rubbish 20 years ago when braking, and much harder to headbutt for a ped ( now soft cushon hoods), cars were safe enough, and they still are, no need to exaggerate with the child killer stuff.



As for the above review, I'd like to see a comparison between part-worn A brand tyres vs new. And using 4 different A class tyres vs 4 matched ones. That Chinese tyres are rubbish in the wet is not deniable, I never pick out Chinese tyres at the scrappy.
 
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Did you ever check the pressures? It is also worth remembering that tyres can be a bit slippy when fresh out of the mould.

I used to buy mid range tyres but I have driven on many a budget tyre in the past and I've never experienced any of this drifting at 15 mph nonsense!
 
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Cars used to be much more rubbish 20 years ago when braking, and much harder to headbutt for a ped

You told us you drive a 22 year old Toyota. So now that you've admitted its 'rubbish when braking' give yourself the best chance by not buying other peoples castoffs for tyres.
 
Fine make in 40 years then, I know your stance in this matter, you know mine, I can't stand all the moral high ground taken by a lot of people.

It's rubbish when braking compared to other cars, but good enough. It passes the MOT brake test every year.
 
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There's a couple of wear points when wet (not damp) performance tends to drop dramatically

5mm and 3mm rings a bell

I would personally be confident that if you picked one of these horrible Chinese efforts and tested them at or close to nearly new in the wet most if not all decent to premium tyres would still be better below 5mm.

I actually agree it would be interesting to see though.

It's also very naive not to think about the factors you're multiplying up by having shocking tyres, poor brakes - maybe not quite paying full attention or distracted for a moment etc etc.

I just like to have the best chance I can not to hit other stuff (I kinda need it). It extends beyond brand of tyres for me but they're certainly a good place to start
 
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You told us you drive a 22 year old Toyota. So now that you've admitted its 'rubbish when braking' give yourself the best chance by not buying other peoples castoffs for tyres.

It's not about giving himself the best chance. It's about giving the people he could otherwise avoid driving into the best chance, if selfish drivers want to go wrap themselves round a tree then I'm all for it - means less on the road to drive into me!

He's already admitted he knows his tyres are rubbish in the wet, but he's "used to it", so I doubt a few forum posts are going to change his mind.

Fine make in 40 years then, I know your stance in this matter, you know mine, I can't stand all the moral high ground taken by a lot of people.

It's rubbish when braking compared to other cars, but good enough. It passes the MOT brake test every year.

I think the "moral high ground taken by a lot of people" is perfectly justified, considering they're the ones you're sharing the road with.

I just like to have the best chance I can not to hit other stuff (I kinda need it). It extends beyond brand of tyres for me but they're certainly a good place to start

Exactly this.

When I got my Galant it had some cheap rubbish wannabe premium tyres on it (Roadstone or something). First time I (tried to go) round a roundabout in the damp I found the car moving in a straight line rather than following the direction the steering wheel was pointing! Luckily I wasn't going particularly fast and there were no other cars around, but was definitely an "oh ****" moment!

Wouldn't dream of fitting rubbish tyres after that
 
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