help needed for two new pc's!

[Plec]

Thanks for your info on that

No worries - it's easy for things to get lost in translation within forums.

As i'm here another example for £1500 budget? (not totally clear if this just for base unit - but i've given alterative parts/prices) :

• 5800X (or if you have to buy sooner buy a cheap place holder - and you could even consider waiting for better value 5700X release in March)
• B550 MSI Tomahawk (cashback offer ~£45) or B550 Gigabyte Elite (cashback and free SSD - you would need to search) both ~£160
• 32Gb Crucial Ballistix 3600MHz ~£140 (tight timings) or 16Gb set ~£70
• 3070 or 3080 depending on budget
• Corsair RM 750W GOLD 10 year warranty - £99
• WD Blue SN550 1TB NVe £110 (or 2Tb ADATA SX8200 can be had for ~£200)
• Case of your choice ~£90

If the £1500 is just for base unit - you could have very tidy spec

 

[Roadrunner_668]

that looks good thankyou i will have a play with that spec on the website !

games wise i mainly play dota 2 and a bit of wow and lol (all these acronyms ha ha) from time to time, occasionally people drag me into different things though !

I play some fps type games too which im reasonably good at but not amazing be interested to know if maybe a high refresh rate would give me an edge !

 

[Plec]

be interested to know if maybe a high refresh rate would give me an edge !

Casual gaming - the main advantage would be that games will play, feel and look so much smoother - especially if you're coming from 60Hz -it's a satisfying jump to 144Hz. Better frame rate coupled with reduced latency will make things feel more immediate/satisfying with far less blurring/tearing - so always an advantage in competitive gameplay.

Your FPS (games), LOL, Dota should feel noticeably different. As for WOW - no idea, but movement/cut scenes will look smoother (unless it's a faster paced game than i imagine).

 

[Roadrunner_668]

bear in mind i currently use a radeon 6850 and a 1600 by 900 monitor ha ha

I had an 8800 gts with 320mb when i first build the computer ha ha

 

[Plec]

bear in mind i currently use a radeon 6850 and a 1600 by 900 monitor ha ha

Yes, but you have the classic q6600 (g0 stepping?) - i hope you had it clocked?

It's served you incredibly well - you missed out on Sandy Bridge - the 2500k/2600k were then next quantum leap and users are still going strong although Zen 3 may be the last tipping point for most.

 

[Roadrunner_668]

it was at 4 ghz once but its been at 3200 for ages because i lost the settings and couldnt be bothered to get it back how it was ha ha

yes i was going to upgrade to those i5s but i didnt in the end ha

 

[Plec]

yes i was going to upgrade to those i5s but i didnt in the end ha

No point upgrading if your system is doing all that you ask of it. But, you should certainly experience considerable 'shock and awe' with this upgrade.

 

[Roadrunner_668]

6850 to 3080 core 2 to ryzen yes probably ha ha

900p to 4k as well !

6gb of memory to 16gb as well ha and it is ddr2 i have now i skipped ddr3 ha

just seen that the new cpus are on the store now ! with my budget should i be looking at 6 core ?

is a 6 core one a good match for a 3080 ??

actually I guess the 8 core one ha ha i'll try put a spec together now based on the one up there ! thanks.

is there a way to paste your ocuk basket like there was 5 years ago when i was last on here? ha ha

 

[Plec]

is there a way to paste your ocuk basket like there was 5 years ago when i was last on here? ha ha

When you're in the basket section - click on the BB Code tab and copy and paste the contents of the box that appears into here.

 

[Roadrunner_668]

oh cool thanks last time i needed a browser add on ha ha

i put the 12 core 3000 cpu in there as a placeholder for the 5800x but the 5800x has 4 less cores so is the older 12 core one better value ?

im also struggling to get the price down and i think i could do with a better case ...

looking for a kinda white and rgb theme ha ha

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Twelve Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £475.00
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3600 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit= £99.95
• 1 x Kolink Bastion RGB Midi Tower Gaming Case - White= £54.95
• 1 x Corsair Hydro Series H115i Platinum RGB Performance Liquid Cooler - 280mm (CW-9060038-WW)= £149.99
• 1 x Asus Prime X570-P (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard= £169.99
• 1 x Super Flower Leadex III 750W 80 PLUS Gold Modular Power Supply - Black= £99.95
• 1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Eagle OC 10GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £719.99
• 1 x WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C)= £109.99
• 1 x Toshiba 4TB X300 High Performance Hard Drive (HDWE140UZSVA)= £94.99

Total: £1,988.00 (includes shipping: £13.20)​

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[Plec]

im also struggling to get the price down and i think i could do with a better case ...

looking for a kinda white and rgb theme ha ha

If you want to save money, dump the AIO - and get the Dark Rock 4 or Dark Rock Pro 4 - that will save you £80 to £60 and will also look stylish in a windowless case. Also, less points of failure and on a par for cooling. There are cheaper, great coolers but the Dark Rocks may sway you with their looks.

That's a budget x570 - for gaming, I would get the B550 (MSI Tomahawk or Gigabyte Elite) - superior VRMs and no fan. Still retains PCIe 4.0 - only on the GPU and first M.2. slot - but more than enough for gaming. Plus, when you upgrade the Gen3 NVMe would pass onto the next M.2 slot if upgraded to a Gen 4.0 (but zero real life gains for gaming). Plus, MSI are doing cashback offers - for motherboard bought with a Ryzen CPU - so more savings to be had (but most manufacturers have some promotions going on - Gigabyte are giving away 500GB NVMes).

You can get a 10 year warranty PSU for the same price - Corsair RM 750W or Phantek 750W. The SuperFlower, although a decent unit, only has 7 years.

Do you need all that storage? If not, I would be tempted to get a 2TB NVMe - a 2Tb ADATA SX8200 can be had for ~£200 5 year warranty.

Memory - with the time between your system builds I would consider 32GB - the 32GB Crucial Ballistsix 3600MHz are only £140 and have tight timings.

And yes, the 5800X would be faster in games than the 3900X - due to the showcased 19% uplift. But at 4K the GPU will be taking a lot of the strain - a 3700X can be had for ~£260 or even a 3600 for ~£160. You could always update the CPU in a few years time...

 

[Roadrunner_668]

ok thankyou i will have a re jig of the basket !

i can always add more ram later down the line my pc started with 3gb i think ha ha

 

[mickyflinn]

ok thankyou i will have a re jig of the basket !

The case has only one rear fan installed either you can add some more but I would get a better case.

Such a high end build with a budget case.

 

[Roadrunner_668]

i picked it because it was simple and white and covered up the psu and the wires coming out of it etc.

ill see if i can find another like it

 

[Plec]

i picked it because it was simple and white and covered up the psu and the wires coming out of it etc.

Nearly all cases over £60 will have a PSU shroud.

There are cheaper options with great airflow (Kolink)- but limited to black from my quick look - i just went to cases i know and presume you wanted white(?).

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh performance Midi-Tower Case - Black= £74.99
• 1 x be quiet! Pure Base 500 Midi Tower Case - White Tempered Glass= £84.95
• 1 x CoolerMaster MasterBox TD500 Mesh Mid-Tower E-ATX Case - White Tempered Glass= £84.95
• 1 x be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ARGB Midi Tower Case - White Tempered Glass= £89.99
• 1 x be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ARGB Midi Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass= £94.99
• 1 x Corsair iCUE 220T Airflow RGB Mid-Tower Smart Case- White Tempered Glass (CC-9011174-WW)= £87.95
• 1 x Lian-Li Lancool II ARGB Midi-Tower Case - White= £87.95
• 1 x Corsair 4000D Airflow Mid-Tower Case - White Tempered Glass (CC-9011201-WW)= £79.99
• 1 x Corsair 4000D Mid-Tower Case - White Tempered Glass (CC-9011199-WW)= £79.99

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[Roadrunner_668]

Thankyou I really like the master box and the corsair one with the solid front

the master box looks like good value with three addressable rgb fans

 

[EsaT]

1 x Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3600 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit= £99.95

1 x Corsair Hydro Series H115i Platinum RGB Performance Liquid Cooler - 280mm (CW-9060038-WW)= £149.99
1 x Asus Prime X570-P (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard= £169.99

1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Eagle OC 10GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £719.99

RGB stands mostly for Ridiculously Grossly Bloated prices.
You could get guaranteedly future proof 2x16GB kit for the same price.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...-3200mhz-dual-channel-kit-grey-my-0aj-tg.html
16GB DIMMs being typically dual rank ones would even performance to single rank 3600MHz.
And £75 is sensible max for basic level 2x8GB.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...zen-tuned-ddr4-memory-dual-kit-my-4bw-cs.html

That fashion hype tube cooler has horrible bang per buck.
While water's heat capacity can absorpt short load spikes without temperature rising much, those mid size slim radiators just don't have that much surface area to dissipate heat into air under continuous load.
Hence only way to achieve performance is having those many noisy high speed fans.
Not very impressive when sub £50 Scythe Mugen 5 wins in continuous cooling per noise:
https://www.tweaktown.com/images/co...15i-rgb-platinum-liquid-cpu-cooler-review.png
https://www.tweaktown.com/images/co...15i-rgb-platinum-liquid-cpu-cooler-review.png
Arctic Freezer II would be only sensible water pipe cooler with actually beefy thicker radiators...
And without heavy fashion and marketing BS hype extra in price sticker.


While Asus corrected VRMs from B450 scams, X570 chipset cooler is from rear end of marketroids:

Actual heatsink under marketing covers is tiny and relies on constant airflow from constantly running fan.
And whole thing is in worst possible place directly under graphics card bathing in its heat.​

So even with fan working chipset can run hot in longer gaming sessions under such very power hungry graphics card.
And should be easy to guess what happens if/when fan fails.
For comparison properly designed chipset coolers of Gigabyte and MSI work mostly passively.

Anyway for gaming PC with budget (or did it double?) B550 works well and doesn't have chipset fan.

 

[Roadrunner_668]

well i started at 1000 but it seemed it wouldnt do that i want so i changed to 1500 and now im struggling to keep to that too ha ha

oh and i know rgb is pricier but i saw someones build over in the other section with lights set to different colours and it looked really cool id quite like that !