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Help needed from Hazro (HZ27WC) users

mstrozny

mstrozny

mstrozny

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Hi,

I am in need of some advice from other Hazro users, HZ27WC to be specific.
As much as I love image quality of this monitor it drives me crazy. Till yesterday my computer was running on XFX 5850. Monitor was in standby mode till windows started to load and drivers kicked in, so no chance to get to bios for example.

Yesterday received my upgraded card asus 7970 matrix platinum, hoping this symptom will go away. Now monitor is not getting from standby at all, even when windows starts.

Got a bit tired of problems with ATI and Hazro together, thinking of changing GPU to Gainward GTX 770 phantom 4GB. I know about scaling problem with nvidia on Hazro but aparently this is possible to fix.

Can any Hazro HZ27WC users please let me know what GPU they use and if it is problem free or what kind of problems they have?

Help much appreciated! :)
 
I have a set of HZ30Wi screens.

So far I haven't been able to get a signal at all from any of the AMD cards I've tested so far (three to my memory). On all the Nvidia cards I've tried the output has been fine. An annoying handicap when choosing a new GPU frankly...

The lack of a POST screen on Hazro monitors is a well known issue, and occurs with a variety of AMD GPUs. Failure to show any output is less well recognised, but unfortunately still quite common.

I hope these screens last a while yet - they cost me enough and ideally I don't want to replace them until OLED is affordable. Still, I wouldn't go Hazro again.
 
Duff-Man said:
I have a set of HZ30Wi screens.

So far I haven't been able to get a signal at all from any of the AMD cards I've tested so far (three to my memory). On all the Nvidia cards I've tried the output has been fine. An annoying handicap when choosing a new GPU frankly...

The lack of a POST screen on Hazro monitors is a well known issue, and occurs with a variety of AMD GPUs. Failure to show any output is less well recognised, but unfortunately still quite common.

I hope these screens last a while yet - they cost me enough and ideally I don't want to replace them until OLED is affordable. Still, I wouldn't go Hazro again.
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Thank you very much for the reply, this sealed my mind on GTX770 I guess. I've tried 4 ati so far, 3 no POST screens, 1 no POST or any output at all. Only MSI 6k series worked in every way. Got the same hope as you that it will last for next few years as don't see anything in decent price range to replace it.
 
You're welcome :)

And yes - the Hazro screens are good value and they're very nice screens (when they work!), but they do have their limitations, and Hazro's RMA procedure is appalling. The lack of solid AMD support is particularly annoying.

The 770 is a decent alternative to the 7970GE - they're virtually identical on price and performance, and with a single screen the difference in VRAM won't be an issue. Enjoy!

If it's worth anything, I have GTX780s and they're just fine with the Hazros. I don't foresee any problems with a 770.
 
Well as I am planning on 4GB GTX 770, VRAM shouldn't be an issue comparing to 7970 with 3GB ; )
As I always play in 2560x1440 (when possible) didn't want to risk 2GB. Requirements can change soon and 4GB sounds like a better option. I plan on keeping new GPU for 2-3 years.

Thanks a lot everyone!

Guess OC will have some more of my money tomorrow :D
 
In case anyone ever have similar dilema. Card arrived today, thanks OC for great service as always! Fits nicelly into case, started up, fingers crossed... yay bios visible! Windows all fine.
I decided to check clock speeds if all working fine... then surprise... 1045MHz core, 1084MHz boosted... thats 10% lower than should be. Turns out there is mistake on OC website : / Will RMA it, not happy with that speed for those money. Only thing is this GPU exchange is costing me around 70GBP in delivery/return charges... Turns out to be pretty expensive card :D
 
mstrozny said:
In case anyone ever have similar dilema. Card arrived today, thanks OC for great service as always! Fits nicelly into case, started up, fingers crossed... yay bios visible! Windows all fine.
I decided to check clock speeds if all working fine... then surprise... 1045MHz core, 1084MHz boosted... thats 10% lower than should be. Turns out there is mistake on OC website : / Will RMA it, not happy with that speed for those money. Only thing is this GPU exchange is costing me around 70GBP in delivery/return charges... Turns out to be pretty expensive card :D
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Which card was it.

I think the clocks could have been copied by mistake from the 2gb vram GTX 770.

When every else is the same on a card, using 4gbs (compared to 2gbs) does make it harder to run the same clock speeds.

Unless you are going multi GPU/multi monitor a 2gb GTX 770 would be better.

I posted this the other day in another post. It is a 2gb per GPU GTX 690 up against a single Titan with it's 6gb of vram.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/764?vs=765

As you can see the GTX 690 wins in nearly everything including the ultra high resolutions. The extra vram on the Titan does nothing to help it, as the Titan is nowhere near fast enough to use it lol.
 
It is Gainward gtx 770 *phantom* 4GB. I pointed phantom as it is a bit missleading, on 2GB phantom is clocked faster but not on 4GB. I don't blame OC at all, was surprised, even on reviews found same mistake. As I play on 2560x1440 and I had last GPU for 3.5 year was planning to do same with new one, thats why I though extra few quid for 4GB version was worth it...
 
mstrozny said:
It is Gainward gtx 770 *phantom* 4GB. I pointed phantom as it is a bit missleading, on 2GB phantom is clocked faster but not on 4GB. I don't blame OC at all, was surprised, even on reviews found same mistake. As I play on 2560x1440 and I had last GPU for 3.5 year was planning to do same with new one, thats why I though extra few quid for 4GB version was worth it...
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I know these are a bit more expensive

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-113-GI&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1341

but a GTX 780 will give last longer than a GTX 770 and comes with 3gb of vram.
 
mstrozny said:
Only thing is this GPU exchange is costing me around 70GBP in delivery/return charges... Turns out to be pretty expensive card :D
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£70?!

Are you shipping from outside the UK? Or are you having it hand-returned by a team of special forces ninjas?! You also realise that you can claim back (reasonable) return postage costs? £70 might not be realistic, but the £10 that it should cost to return would be borne by the retailer.

I also have agree with Kaapstad... While the GTX 770 is a better value baseline card, if you're going to pay ~£400 for the GPU then the GTX 780 may be worth considering.


Also, regarding the clocks of the 4Gb Phantom, while it says 1150/1202Mhz on the OcUK website, Gainward's site itself states 1046/1085 clocks: see here.

Edit - yeah, seems there are two gradings of 2Gb GTX770, one at stock clocks and one at 1150/1202, but only one grading of the 4Gb card. Not sure the replacement will be any different.
 
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I wouldn't call Royal Mail ninjas :-D
I should be more precise, by this card I mean this season gpu upgrade. Postage 10£ + 17£ return + 10£ next postage + 17£ return + 10£ to get final one hopefully :-D
I know gainward site state proper clock speeds of or their 4gb unit, but I've never checked their website prior to order :-/ going on holiday so will deal with new purchase when I am back and this been refunded. I agree instead of going evga 770 4gb, 780 might be better option.
 
Well, you should be able to claim back postage costs (both ways in theory). Certainly for the GTX 770 I would be adamant about getting postage back, since the card arrived "not as advertised". The mistake was not yours at all - it was in the description at the shop.
 
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