Help Needed. Hi Spec

PlanetBBQ

PlanetBBQ

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Hi All
First Looking to replace the Hitachi HD with a SSD around 300 - 500GB.
Also thinking about the Processor,board,ram bundle (i7?), maybe even replacing the two cards with one 690. Can this be done for around £2000.00?(don't tell the wife and kids);)

System Spec:
Coolermaster CM-690 Case
Coolermaster Silent Pro 850w
Intel i5 2500k @3.30ghz
4 x 4 Corsair Vengeance DDR3 (think 800mhz)
MSI P67A GD53 (MS7681)
2 X MSI N570GTX SLI
Hitachi HDT72503 300GB
sAMSUNG hd103si 1000GB

Intel and Nvidia only please

Budget around £2000
Main reason for upgrade is to have a higher overhead on Video and Game editing
 
It can be done for far less than that :)

YOUR BASKET
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 780 3072MB PCI-Express Graphics Card (78NNH5DN00G0) £549.95
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail with FREE Grid 2 PC Game £275.99
1 x Samsung 256GB SSD 840 PRO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7PD256BW) £193.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £158.99
Total : £1,190.32 (includes shipping : £9.50).



I would recommend the 780 over the 690 simply because it is a single GPU card rather than a dual GPU card so it uses less power because it takes advantage of NVIDIA's new architecture. :)
It will not perform quite as well, but you should be able to overclock it to match or even surpass stock GTX Titan speeds. It is also anywhere from £200 to £300 less which would leave money over to go towards a second GTX 780 further down the line if you feel that you need it. Or indeed, you could just get a pair of them now as that would still come in under your budget by £260.

YOUR BASKET
2 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 780 3072MB PCI-Express Graphics Card (78NNH5DN00G0) £549.95 (£916.58)
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail with FREE Grid 2 PC Game £275.99
1 x Samsung 256GB SSD 840 PRO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7PD256BW) £193.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £158.99
Total : £1,740.86 (includes shipping : £10.00).




GTX690 vs GTX780 http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/827?vs=765
i5 2500K vs i7 4770K http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=836
 
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Thanks guys for the replys, i'll have a read and think about 690/780 question, i'm leaning towards the 2 x 780 option.
agreed on the I7, think the new Ram is also a good idea.
Without reading through the forum, can i get the chip and ram on a board and oc'ed by Overclockers. I,m ok at assembly, but if i can get the pro's to do it, all the better.
 
Can I add,

If you are a novice at overclocking, then you can try it yourself and learn as you go, increasing the speed a bit a t a time and testing as you go, or....

• The Easytune software that comes on the disk of Gigabyte boards has three preset overclocks to select and use.

• In the BIOS are a few more preset option to increase the speed for you.
 
I don't understand the need for new RAM if you already have 16GB of 1600MHz Vengeance.
(the MHz reading you see in programs like CPU-Z needs to be multipled by 2, you can't get DDR3 as slow as 800MHz)

No need to upgrade the RAM whatsoever.

As for overclocking, the members on here would be glad to help you with that :D

A-lot of seasoned overclockers have upgraded to Haswell, and once they have finished faffing around in the BIOS sorting out their own overclocks, i'm sure they will be ready and willing to give you advice and guidance :)

I don't mean to debunk other peoples advice, but I still think that my spec is the better one. If you wanted to save a little money, you could drop the motherboard to the one Idleman has specced. The Z87X-D3H is the equivelant of the old Z77X-D3H which was a fantastic board, but if you have the money I would personally go for at least the Z87X-UD3H as I suspect it may be slightly better for overclocking, and it has more ports etc. The Samsung SSD's have been tried and tested by an awful lot of members, and along with the Intel and Crucial SSD's I consider them to be among the best. :)
 
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Hyburnate said:
I would recommend you get a new PSU as well to make sure you get the most out of the CPU, go for a XFX.
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Absolutely no need to go for a new PSU, the unit he has already is a very good one indeed.

The only issue with PSU's and Haswell is that some units do not support the new advanced power saving features. These new features can be changed or disabled in the BIOS very easily, thus eliminating any potential issue.

Furthermore I believe that his PSU is compatible with Haswell's new power saving features anyway.

Here are some statements which Coolermaster confirmed or debunked in their press release about Haswell:
Most power supplies don’t support Haswell – False

I need a Haswell certified power supply to build a Haswell system – False

Haswell only works with DC-DC Power Supplies – False

Haswell only works with 80+ Gold and better Power Supplies – False

Haswell requires a second 12V rail and doesn’t work with single rail Power Supplies – False

On some older power supplies, Haswell consumes 5W more in idle mode - True
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http://modcrash.com/cooler-master-intel-haswell-ready-psus/#.UauHAUCG18E

This whole 'Haswell needs special PSUs' thing has been blown out of all proportion...
 
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I was not sure about the Ram, can leave mine for now np. The overclocking i can cross when its time, i do use MSI afterburner and Nvidia Inspector at the moment due to some applications not liking the default overclock on my two 570's. The only other bit that worries me is the assembly of the processor onto the board. Never done it before.
 
acme15 said:
I don't understand the need for new RAM if you already have 16GB of 1600MHz Vengeance.
(the MHz reading you see in programs like CPU-Z needs to be multipled by 2, you can't get DDR3 as slow as 800MHz)

No need to upgrade the RAM whatsoever.
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There probably is`nt any need. But by having 2x8gb(16gb), the OP then has the option to install another 16gb should he require more ram for his applications.
Slightly cheaper ram below, don`t know why I added the Patriot.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 690 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £767.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail with FREE Grid 2 PC Game £275.99
1 x Toshiba SSD HG5D Series 7mm 256GB Solid State Hard Drive - (THNSNH256GCST) £169.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-D3H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £131.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BLS2CP8G3D1609DS1S00CEU) £89.99
Total : £1,447.34 (includes shipping : £9.50).

 
Again, I don't see the need for the OP to upgrade his RAM. He is going to either have 16GB of spare RAM sitting around, or he will have to sell it. If he wanted to upgrade to 32GB he would do better to just sell his existing RAM when he feels the need to upgrade. 16GB is still enough for almost anything.

(I am aware of the fact that I have 24GB, but in truth I would be fine with 6 to 8GB. I wanted to bump my RAM up to 12GB so I had 4GB to dedicate to a VM but a 16GB kit came up for the same price on the MM)

The OP has already stated that he is leaning towards the dual GTX780 option, and to be honest I don't see why a 690 is a good option here at all as a power hungry dual GPU card.

Good call on the board as it is cheaper and offers most of the features of the UD3H. The Toshiba SSD I notice is also cheaper. I myself would be inclined to buy the 840 pro anyway, but then again this Sandisk looks the business and has similar performance figures to the Toshiba, while being cheaper. It also resembles an SSD rather than a floppy drive which has been cut in half, so it wouldnt need hiding. :D

YOUR BASKET
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 780 3072MB PCI-Express Graphics Card (78NNH5DN00G0) £549.95
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail with FREE Grid 2 PC Game £275.99
1 x SanDisk Extreme SSD 240GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - (SDSSDX-240G-G25) £142.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-D3H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £131.99
Total : £1,112.32 (includes shipping : £9.50).



or as above but with dual 780's.
 
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Thanks for the spec, i'm goning to have a couple of days cooling off then will most probably go with the above acme (two x 780), thanks for the advice.
BTW can we also sell on the forum?
 
PlanetBBQ said:
Thanks for the spec, i'm goning to have a couple of days cooling off then will most probably go with the above acme (two x 780), thanks for the advice.
BTW can we also sell on the forum?
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There is a members market which is the only place buying/selling/trading is permitted, but you need 1000 posts to gain access :(
 
1000 post ouch, them 570's are going to be dusty. Oh well only only 995 to go. Do hope i don't have that much trouble with the build that i get any-ways near 1000
 
PlanetBBQ said:
1000 post ouch, them 570's are going to be dusty. Oh well only only 995 to go. Do hope i don't have that much trouble with the build that i get any-ways near 1000
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Plug the USB front panel plug into the Firewire header (might cause it to catch fire) and then you'll have plenty to post about :D
 
PlanetBBQ said:
Says your a Mobster not a wiseguy lol. Forgot to mention do i need a cooler
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I was a wiseguy :( I want my old title back lol :p

The CPU will come with a cooler, but it is very lacking and wont leave you any room for overclocking.

With that in mind I would say, yes :)

Here are some fantastic air coolers:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1150 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £62.98
1 x BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 2 CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1150 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £61.99
1 x Alpenföhn K2 Mount Doom CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1150 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £59.99
1 x Thermalright Silver Arrow SB E Extreme CPU Cooler TY-143 Fans (Socket 775 / 1150 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £53.99
1 x Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E SE CPU Cooler TY-143 Fans (Socket 775 / 1150 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £50.39



And some water coolers of different prices, with different performance levels to match:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Antec Kúhler H2O 1220 Series 4 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler ( LGA 1150 / 1155 / LGA1156 / LGA1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM2+ / AM3+) £90
1 x Antec Kúhler H2O 920 Series 4 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler ( LGA 1150 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM2+ / AM3+) £84.98
1 x Antec Kúhler H2O 620 Series 4 CPU Watercooler (Socket Intel LGA 1155 / 1156 / 1150 / 1366 / 2011 / AMD AM2 / AM3 / AM2+ / AM3+) £46.39



Some cheaper alternatives which won't cool as well, but will still allow for a reasonable overclock with safe temperatures:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Phanteks PH-TC12DX CPU Cooler - Silver (Socket 775 / 1150 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £39.98
1 x Xigmatek Dark Knight SD-1283 Night Hawk Edition CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1150 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £34.99
1 x Thermalright True Spirit 140 BW Cooler (Socket 775 / 1150 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £34.99

 
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