help new rig keeps crashing in games?

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 21:05

hi all I have recently built a new rig and for some reason my games keep crashing. some times I can play for a good half hour then it happens I start task manager and it just comes up the games not responding. any suggestions on what the problem could be?

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 21:15

windows 7 64bit asus maximus formula v z77 3770k xspc raystorm water block xspc reservoir and pump 16gb ram Kingston hyperbeast x 2400mhz 4x4gb 2x gainward gtx670 Kingston 120gb ssd and standard 1tb drive for games and a corsair ax860 power supply its so disappointing because when I do get my half hour go an bf3 it looks so good.

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 21:23

RJC said:
Full system specs please

windows 7 64bit asus maximus formula v z77 3770k xspc raystorm water block xspc reservoir and pump 16gb ram Kingston hyperbeast x 2400mhz 4x4gb 2x gainward gtx670 Kingston 120gb ssd and standard 1tb drive for games and a corsair ax860 power supply its so disappointing because when I do get my half hour go an bf3 it looks so good. :mad:

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 21:30

RJC said:
Couple of things that you can check / do:

Test with only one GPU installed.
Also are you overclcoked at all on the cpu?
Double check your memory voltage and timings.

yeah I tested both separately and they work. yes I used the autoclock feature that came with the motherboard up to 4.4ghz
memory voltage and timings I don't have a clue totally new to pcs just wanted a nice gaming rig.

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 21:37

RJC said:
Try running at stock, auto overclock features are fairly hit and miss, your best bet is to look around for tutorials on overclocking your cpu.

ok thanks I will give it ago do you think it could be to do with the ram aswell? :confused:

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 21:48

wazza300 said:
most likely a setting

did you want to clock to 4.4ghz? and did you enable xmp for your memory?

well yeah I thought overclocking would give me a few more frames but would rather have it running smoothly for now I reset the setting in bios but my ram only read as 1333mhz when I put it on 2400mhz windows wont load.

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 21:54

RJC said:
Check the DRAM voltage, you probably need 1.60v ~

should I try that in the bios or on the memtweek it programme I got with the motherboard

I just checked the dram voltage in the bios its on auto at 1.520v

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 22:30

wazza300 said:
For 4.4ghz you could try medium loadline calibration,+0.015v CPU offset,manually set the CPU multiplier to 44x,and the pci/cpu clock to 100

Set dram voltage to 1.65v and system memory multiplier (ram) to 2400mhz might need 1.10v vtt voltage also might be called vccio or vccsa,whatever its called it will be stock 1.05v

currently its like this vccsa0.961v vccio 1.059v also got a second vccio voltage at 1.050v

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 22:35

wazza300 said:
Can you adjust both vccio? I would just change the stock 1.05v one to 1.10v (may need more for 2400mhz) but try 1.10v for now,max safe is 1.3v but doubt you'd need that much

yes I can adjust both ok I will try it now.

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 22:44

wazza300 said:
Can you adjust both vccio? I would just change the stock 1.05v one to 1.10v (may need more for 2400mhz) but try 1.10v for now,max safe is 1.2v but doubt you'd need that much

ok tried that failed :mad:

it wouldn't boot so turned the computer off and on again and said overclock failed

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 22:54

wazza300 said:
Could be memory,2400mhz is hard to setup

Try the same settings but try with ram at 2133mhz then tweak it from there

Edit:just realised you have 16gb of ram,I doubt you'd manage 2400mhz or even 2133mhz with 16gb on ivy

Start at 1800mhz then take it from there

what 1800mhz with dram voltage 1.65v vccio 1.10v yeah didn't realise it would be like this to set up I just got the ram because I got it in a sale and I think my mobo said it supports ram up to 2600oc I think maybe even 2800oc

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 23:08

wazza300 said:
It will with just 8gb,but the more ram the harder it is to run higher ram speeds on ivy,haswell is better

You won't lose any performance with a lower ram speed

Yh same voltages/settings but ram at 1800mhz,can try higher later if it boots ect

ok that seemed to of worked thanks for your help lets hope now I can game without crashing.

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 23:20

wazza300 said:
You need to test for stability now,plenty gaming,if it crashes to desktop then add one/two clicks more CPU offset so +0.020 or +0.025v ect

Download coretemp and CPU-z,keep cores below 80c or between 80-85c is acceptable,and CPU load voltage below 1.4v

You could try 2133mhz ram speed or 2000mhz upto you

nope still no good got into a game of bf3 first time cut out went to blue protect screen then tried again and the same thing happening battle field not working really annoyed now :mad:

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 23:31

wazza300 said:
You probably need more CPU offset,I can only guess at the settings as each chip will be different

Try to catch the bsod code too it will looklike this but with different numbers

0x0000000124 ect

Try with +0.025v CPU offset,keep eye on load temps and load cpu v also

ok I have cpuz anyway and I can keep an eye on my temps with ai suite 2

browner0189 · 22 Nov 2013 at 23:48

wazza300 said:
You will get it stable it just takes time

Edit: you can also look in windows event viewer to see what the cause of the crash was

ok at them moment my cpu voltage is 1.135 volts without me touching it. and in windows event id I get event id 100 and 500

browner0189 · 23 Nov 2013 at 00:03

wazza300 said:
When you click on the errors does it say what they are for? CPU,memory ect

Could try +0.040v offset then if at 1.135v ,you will have default CPU v,then the amount of offset gets applied and the llc setting applies some more voltage( its the llc amount Idk about,each llc will add a higher amount)

video memory is resources are over-utilized and there is thrashing happening as a result. reducing number of programs and open windows may help resolve this problem.

and if I bump the offset up by +0.040v would make it 1.75v right?

browner0189 · 23 Nov 2013 at 00:20

wazza300 said:
Could be memory related still,Idk if increasing vccio voltage or lowering ram speed might cure it

ok I have had enough for tonight im shattered this is giving me a headache now. I will try and up the cpu voltage in the morning up by +0.040 if no luck I will set all back to default setting and come back for advice about maybe getting a 4.5ghz overclock and sort the ram out then. thanks for your help anyway much appreciated.

browner0189 · 23 Nov 2013 at 12:31

wazza300 said:
Ok,I think its either CPU v or memory,its something simple

ok started my computer this morning went straight into a crash so booted into bios and turned the ram MHz down to 1600mhz had a few hours gaming all was good till I got a blank screen followed by the message. direct 3d device: present failed (device removed) dxgi_error_device_hung (-2005270523)

do you have a clue what this is? or anyone else for that matter?
much appreciate the help.

browner0189 · 23 Nov 2013 at 16:32

wazza300 said:
idk what that error is,can you stress the cpu in prime95 and look to see what the load cpu voltage is in cpu-z??

hi I did abit of my own research and the culprit was call of duty ghosts googled it ant 1000s of people having the same problem just a bad port that game. I will run some stress tests soon as I want 4.5ghz out the cpu heard that's the sweet spot for gaming and sli.

browner0189 · 27 Nov 2013 at 23:28

wazza300 said:
I just want to know where you are with load cpu voltage

for 4.4ghz you might need 1.2v to 1.3v depends on the chip

sorry for the long reply so busy at the mo I tried looking for that prime95 but every time I download it just downloads a load of rubbish . is there a benchmark tool I can buy?