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Could someone spec me a £500 medium end-ish gaming PC please?

And give me feedback on one I chose myself? :3

YOUR BASKET
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 650Ti EX OC 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £99.95
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £92.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £48.95
1 x Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £45.95
1 x TeamGroup Elite Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED38GM1600HC11DC01) £43.99
1 x XFX Pro 450W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £39.95
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1150 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £26.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £12.95
1 x OcUK Value RJ45 15m Network Cable (URT-615) £5.59
Total : £465.29 (includes shipping : £12.50).




^ Could someone tell me the limts of this system or any improvements that could be made to it? Do I need the aftermarket heat sink fan or will the retail boxed onne be fine? Also I plan on upgrading the processer to an i7 when i have the money so should I use the retail for the i3 then buy an aftermarket fan for the i7? And one last thing is it all compatible and could any one reccomend a cheap moniter? Thanks! :P
 
The mobo might well need a BIOS update before it recognises the IVY CPU, the Z68 was designed for Sandy. 1GB of VRAM on the GPU is limiting and you really should be looking at the Ti Boost or a 7850 with 2GB of VRAM.

Use the stock cooler and buy the heatsink when you upgrade the CPU later on would be my advice.

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7850 IceQ 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785Q2G2M) £161.99
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £92.99
1 x Asus P8Z77-V LX2 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £79.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020059-UK) £54.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £48.95
1 x Adata XPG Gaming v1.0 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AX3U1600GC4G9-2G) £43.99
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £12.95
Total : £542.93 (includes shipping : £11.75).



Over budget however this GPU comes with a MEGA bundle of games to help justify the extra cost ;) RAM has better CAS timings for the same price, PSU is modular to help cable management.
 
I'd wait until you can afford the i5 (not the i7, it's not worth the extra for gaming). The i3 will seriously limit you in some recent games (e.g. the included Crysis 3 with the 7850).
 
Check with Customer Services to confirm if the Z68 mobo is Revision 2.0, if it is then no problem with the IB Cpu, as it will have the updated bios.
 
YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7850 IceQ 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785Q2G2M) £161.99
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £92.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £60.00
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020059-UK) £54.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £48.95
1 x Adata XPG Gaming v1.0 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AX3U1600GC4G9-2G) £43.99
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £12.95
Total : £522.94 (includes shipping : £11.75).



Little cheaper but the B grade mobo might need some sata cables. It is however better than the LX2 mobo.

What's your budget including a monitor? I go for an LED panel over LCD, a 22inch is going to be around £100. Do you have a HDTV you can use in the mean time? Maybe you could spend more on the core components then.
 
Sorry, but... what's a sata cable?

Little worrying you don't know that if you are building yourself :(

It's the cable that connects the HDDs and the optical drives to the mobo to transfer the data, so they are pretty important ;)

They come with a retail mobo but B grade items can be missing accessories which is why I pointed out it may need the sata cables.
 
Ahh, of course. Thank you for remainding me! I was thinking of somthing else. Would there be anything else the B grade mobo would be missing that I should be aware of?
 
Ahh, of course. Thank you for remainding me! I was thinking of somthing else. Would there be anything else the B grade mobo would be missing that I should be aware of?

B grade is an opened then returned item or maybe refurbished as HDDs usually are. It could well be missing the driver disks but you should be downloading the latest ones anyway. You might find some GPU bargains in the B grade section too although again they might be missing an adapter or the Xfire bridge what have you.

Best bet is to ask in the customer services section to get a definite answer :)

And also, don't operating systems tend to be expensive?

You can download a free trial of windows 8 and use that for 3 months to help you get up and going
 
B grade is an opened then returned item or maybe refurbished as HDDs usually are. It could well be missing the driver disks but you should be downloading the latest ones anyway. You might find some GPU bargains in the B grade section too although again they might be missing an adapter or the Xfire bridge what have you.

Best bet is to ask in the customer services section to get a definite answer :)



You can download a free trial of windows 8 and use that for 3 months to help you get up and going

Would I get the motherboard manual with the B grade?

And if I got the free trial of windows 8 would i be able to downgrade it to windows 7 later and remove windows 8 from my hard drive?
 

"The OcUK Mega Bundle comes with qualifying AMD Graphics cards, which are listed in this section. This bundle is only valid with orders placed between 02/07/2013 too 31/07/2013."

That's just my basket with the network cable added lol

You need to pop in the customer services section. Ask about the D3 mobo if it will support Ivy out of the box (as my buddy Idleman said earlier). If it does then it will come with sata cables, it's not a bad mobo it just lacks a UEFI BIOS but it is saving you some cash :)

The Z77-D3H is listed as boxed missing accessories so you need to find out what is missing before you order it. Without a pair of sata cables you aren't going to get very far, they are cheap to be fair anyways.

All drivers, manuals etc can be found online from the manufacturers website for the component ;)
 
Yeah, i took your RAM mobo and GPU and PSU which was, well everything you changed :P And what should i do if it doesn't "suppourt ivy out of the box"?

Talk to the helpful peeps in customer services fella, they might even offer to do the BIOS update if it doesn't support the IVY CPU.

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7850 IceQ 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785Q2G2M) £161.99
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £92.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £60.00
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020059-UK) £54.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £48.95
1 x Adata XPG Gaming v1.0 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AX3U1600GC4G9-2G) £43.99
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £12.95
1 x OcUK Value RJ45 15m Network Cable (URT-615) £5.59
2 x Akasa AK-CBSA05-15BL Super slim SATA rev 3.0 data cable with securing latches - 15cm, Blue £2.99 (£5.98)
Total : £534.50 (includes shipping : £11.75).



Worst case buy that but you really do need to ask what is missing from the mobo. It might have sata cables for all I know. It's over budget but you can sell unwanted games to claw some cash back I suppose.
 
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