Help Upgrading PC

Jamstrap · 20 Nov 2018 at 18:32

So I've decided to finally start upgrading my pc, it wasn't doing too well.

I've recently upgraded to an RX 580 8gb and decided to buy assassin's creed origins. But the frame rate on High was really unstable and its still around 30/40 on medium.. Is the rx 580 just not cut out for newer games or is it something else like my processor?

And if it is my processor what is a good upgrade? I was thinking Ryzen 5 2600? (and what motherboard to go with the Ryzen if that's a good choice? B450 Tomahawk?)

My current build:
GPU- RX580 8gb
Power Supply - evga g2 650
CPU- i5 3570k
Mobo- Asus p8z77-v l
8gb ram

Thanks

heatonpkmassive · 20 Nov 2018 at 18:48

The cheapest upgrade would be to overclock that chip..

MissChief · 20 Nov 2018 at 18:52

If you have the budget then by all means go all in on Ryzen, a new board and 16GB ram. Personally I’d save your money, do as @heatonpkmassive has advised and OC that chip and get another 8GB of RAM. Then get a big capacity SSD drive for Windows and some games. You’ll notice a marked difference in day to day usage.

Jamstrap · 20 Nov 2018 at 18:56

Would I see a massive difference if i upgraded compared to OCing?

MissChief · 20 Nov 2018 at 18:58

Jamstrap said:
Would I see a massive difference if i upgraded compared to OCing?

Of course, the CPU is several generations old now, but you’d see a significant improvement by OC’ing. Make sure you have a decent cooler though!

PiKe · 20 Nov 2018 at 18:58

The thing is overclocking is free. You might as well try.

Jamstrap · 20 Nov 2018 at 18:59

I'll give it a shot but I don't mind upgrading at this point.. any recommendations?

PiKe · 20 Nov 2018 at 19:03

Ryzen 1700 or something, you got a budget?

Jamstrap · 20 Nov 2018 at 19:13

looking at around £400 to bring my pc up to date

PiKe · 20 Nov 2018 at 19:23

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1700 3.70GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £149.99
1 x Gigabyte B450 AORUS M (Socket AM4) DDR4 MATX Motherboard= £83.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Predator 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX432C16PB3K2/8)= £74.99

Total: £319.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)

PiKe · 20 Nov 2018 at 19:27

Or add £25 for 16gb RAM instead of 8gb.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...al-channel-kit-grey-tlgd416g30-my-087-tg.html

heatonpkmassive · 20 Nov 2018 at 19:32

Good shouts there PiKe.

Jamstrap · 20 Nov 2018 at 19:36

Appreciate it.. I'll have a look at those.

Is my GPU decent enough for new games though?

heatonpkmassive · 20 Nov 2018 at 19:40

It won't run them at super ultra settings, but the experience will be decent enough I'd say. The 580 is a good midrange card.

The above of course depends on your resolution, I'm presuming 1080p as that's what the majority of users run.

Jamstrap · 20 Nov 2018 at 19:42

Yeah 1080p.. I just want high settings and 60fps but currently im struggling to hit that

heatonpkmassive · 20 Nov 2018 at 19:43

MissChief said:
If you have the budget then by all means go all in on Ryzen, a new board and 16GB ram. Personally I’d save your money, do as @heatonpkmassive has advised and OC that chip and get another 8GB of RAM. Then get a big capacity SSD drive for Windows and some games. You’ll notice a marked difference in day to day usage.

Agree entirely. In terms of bang for buck, this suggestion is where it's at. But as MissChief says, if money is no object then buy new.

heatonpkmassive · 20 Nov 2018 at 19:44

Jamstrap said:
Yeah 1080p.. I just want high settings and 60fps but currently im struggling to hit that

The 580 will do you good, especially if you squeeze some more Mhz out of that chip. It's known to be a reasonable clocker so do a bit of reading up and get some free performance.

heatonpkmassive · 20 Nov 2018 at 19:48

Oh and get another 8Gb of RAM. That's what I did, bought second hand. It's not even the same RAM, it's Corsair Vengeance memory but the originals were 1.5v for 2133Mhz, the new ones are 1.65v for the same value. So I just back them off to 1600Mhz for stability and so that the second set can get by with 1.5v. Works fine.

That's only for an Intel system though, RAM speed is really important in a new Ryzen system so should be taken into account should you go that route, although PiKe has sorted you out there in the comments above.

Jamstrap · 20 Nov 2018 at 19:52

Thanks guys.. I've never overclocked before so I'm looking into it. But you've given me enough product ideas to upgrade everything