Help with £2500 basket

LackyT

LackyT

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Hi all,

Would like to look at moving over to PC from console. I have read quite a few build threads on here and tried to put something together (as below). I need pretty much everything :S and think I will get the OC to build it.

Things I'm not sure on:
  1. Different versions of GPU's and 780Ti vs R290X
  2. Should I be gaming at 1440p?
  3. Win 7 vs 8.1 (I am not a fan on Win8, but does it give better performance?)
  4. Mouse and Keyboard (Personal preference I guess? Roccat look good..)
  5. Case? I just chose a general one
Any help or feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance :)

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus PG278Q ROG Swift 27" G-Sync 144Hz Gaming Widescreen LED Slim Bezel Monitor - Black/Red £695.99
1 x KFA2 Geforce GTX 780Ti HOF+ 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card - Retail (78INH5DV8PXZ) £479.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 7 - Devils Canyon Core i7 4790K CPU & Motherboard Bundle **£43 Saving** £355.98
1 x Samsung 512GB SSD 840 PRO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7PD512BW) £289.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX316C10FBK2/16) £129.95
1 x Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case - Black (CC-9011035-WW) £124.99
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 850W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £97.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £88.00
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £56.99
1 x Asus 24x DVD±RW DRW-24F1ST SATA ReWriter - Black (Retail) £17.99
Total : £2,337.85 (includes shipping : ).

 
I don't think you need 840 Pro, just get Evo.
PSU is huge overkill, unless you plan on SLI?
maybe worth waiting for GTX980.
are you sure you need optical?
W8.1 is rumored to get upgrade to W9 for free. you can sort out Metro by using startisback or similar.
 
kefan77 said:
I don't think you need 840 Pro, just get Evo.
PSU is huge overkill, unless you plan on SLI?
maybe worth waiting for GTX980.
are you sure you need optical?
W8.1 is rumored to get upgrade to W9 for free. you can sort out Metro by using startisback or similar.
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Thanks for the reply, tweaked the SSD and PSU. Looks like the new Nvidia cards are out soon, thats a good shout. No, I am not sure I need optical, what are you referring to?

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus PG278Q ROG Swift 27" G-Sync 144Hz Gaming Widescreen LED Slim Bezel Monitor - Black/Red £695.99
1 x KFA2 Geforce GTX 780Ti HOF+ 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card - Retail (78INH5DV8PXZ) £479.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 7 - Devils Canyon Core i7 4790K CPU & Motherboard Bundle **£43 Saving** £355.98
1 x Samsung 500GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE500BW) £176.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX316C10FBK2/16) £129.95
1 x Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case - Black (CC-9011035-WW) £124.99
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 750W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £89.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £88.00
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £56.99
1 x Asus 24x DVD±RW DRW-24F1ST SATA ReWriter - Black (Retail) £17.99
Total : £2,216.84 (includes shipping : ).

 
I would not be spending that much money on a monitor for only 2560x1440.. I don't care if it supports G-Sync or not...

I would sooner buy a 4k monitor and 2 or 3 graphics cards.
 
I've just made a few changes to include a normal 2460x1440 monitor as I feel a 144Hz version is pointless as you'll need monster cards to drive 144Hz at that resolution anyway and the single 780ti you picked wouldn't do it.

I've also changed to a pair of super quiet Sapphire 290x's in Crossfire and also changed the SSD's so you can now have 2 of them in RAID 0.

You could always add a 2Tb drive and still come out at the same price as your build.

As a gaming machine the changes I've made will deliver a much much better gaming experience then your basket and mine works out cheaper by around £100.

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Tweaked PSU and drive on my original basket, I guess I will be getting games from Steam and I take it OC install the OS for you?

Case wise, the H440 is nice, but the black/red is out of stock at the moment.

Monitor wise I was pretty set on the ROG Swift, but then again I am no expert. I think a 4K screen is a bit overkill for me? What about the BenQ XL2720Z? I would like 27" as the screen be used for other things such as PS4, films, occasional work that comes back from the office etc.

@almighty15 That looks like a solid build, thanks! I actually already have a 2TB external drive I could use. Do you rate two R290X's over waiting for the new Nvidia cards?

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus PG278Q ROG Swift 27" G-Sync 144Hz Gaming Widescreen LED Slim Bezel Monitor - Black/Red £695.99
1 x KFA2 Geforce GTX 780Ti HOF+ 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card - Retail (78INH5DV8PXZ) £479.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 7 - Devils Canyon Core i7 4790K CPU & Motherboard Bundle **£43 Saving** £355.98
1 x Samsung 500GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE500BW) £176.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX316C10FBK2/16) £129.95
1 x Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case - Black (CC-9011035-WW) £124.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £88.00
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 650W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £83.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Roccat Kone XTD 8200 DPI Gaming Mouse (ROC-11-810) £59.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £56.99
Total : £2,327.83 (includes shipping : ).

 
almighty15 said:
I've just made a few changes to include a normal 2460x1440 monitor as I feel a 144Hz version is pointless as you'll need monster cards to drive 144Hz at that resolution anyway and the single 780ti you picked wouldn't do it.

I've also changed to a pair of super quiet Sapphire 290x's in Crossfire and also changed the SSD's so you can now have 2 of them in RAID 0.

You could always add a 2Tb drive and still come out at the same price as your build.

As a gaming machine the changes I've made will deliver a much much better gaming experience then your basket and mine works out cheaper by around £100.
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not entirely convinced 750W is enough for 290X XFire + headroom.
 
Mouse and keyboard wise I highly recommend Zowie for mice personally, the FK line work great for me but which model will depend on your preferences.

If your spending that kind of money worth looking at mechanical keyboards though you'd need to work out which switch type works best for you.
 
almighty15 said:
I've just made a few changes to include a normal 2460x1440 monitor as I feel a 144Hz version is pointless as you'll need monster cards to drive 144Hz at that resolution anyway and the single 780ti you picked wouldn't do it.
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Thanks for your help guys, I think I will start off playing BF3 to get used to FPS on PC. Is it viable to play at a 1080p to get higher frames (~120 FPS) How much of a difference does 1440p make? Sorry for the rookie questions

Rroff said:
Mouse and keyboard wise I highly recommend Zowie for mice personally, the FK line work great for me but which model will depend on your preferences.

If your spending that kind of money worth looking at mechanical keyboards though you'd need to work out which switch type works best for you.
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Thanks, my main issue is I don't know what my preferences are! Shame I don't live closer to the shop as I could go in a try some out!
 
Same as everyone else really, TN panels are not worth that dosh. How about the 29" or 34" LG superwide screen? I've got the 29" and can it fault it. Perfect for BF3 and Borderlands 2.
 
Regarding the panel, you don't need to be pushing monster fps to get a lot of benefits from a 120+Hz panel over a 60Hz and if your main use is gaming then it is hard to beat a 2560x1440 120+Hz panel TN or not unless your exclusively playing slower paced/more casual games.

4K is great but overall I'm not convinced by it for gaming, some games are utterly immense on a 4K panel but a lot of games IMO there are more negatives compared to playing at 1920-2560x than are outweighed by the positives - this might change as the 4K tech progresses i.e. for instance most of the current 4K panels have pretty bad overdrive artefacts in faster paced games.
 
2560x1440 is a lot better 1920x1080, the difference can't even be described.

And as for refresh rates? Your moving from console so 2540x1440 with a V-Syncd 60fps is already going to an upgrade of epic proportions.

120Hz in my option is over rated and I would choose a resolution increase over the jump to a higher refresh rate any day of the week.
 
McGraw said:
Depends on the game. Arma 3 and FSX benefit for sure. Why not have it at the same price?
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same price why not, but would still love the answer as to how much FPS exactly would he gain by going with higher frequency RAM. my guess would be somewhere in the 0-1 range.
 
kefan77 said:
same price why not, but would still love the answer as to how much FPS exactly would he gain by going with higher frequency RAM. my guess would be somewhere in the 0-1 range.
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Depends a bit on game and specs.

i.e. BF4 on a single high end GPU 1600MHz CL9 to 2400MHz CL9 running through the first bit of the single player there was maybe 1fps difference in the average barely and the only real differences were mins went from 69 to 72 and max 128 to 138. Matt's testing in another game with multi GPU saw a little more gains 128->141 average and 96->109 mins.

The sweet spot (for balanced performance) currently on Intel platforms seems to be 2133 @ CL9 unless you know your doing something that specifically takes advantage of other settings, but your not really losing much on decent timings 1600/1866 stuff and/or 2400 CL9/10.
 
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