Help with WC spec

woozor

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Hi guys, I'm looking into water cooling with little knowledge so far. Ideally id prefer to go for a full WC setup, but have no idea on how much it would cost or who are good brands to look out for.

I was also considering the Corsair H50-1 for a simple alternate which has good review.

Was wondering if anyone had the patience to spec/link me a full WC system for an i7 rig. As for price well i got no idea how much it costs for a decent one. I'm not looking at redicously high end but no rubbish thx.
 
I'd say do some research, find out what you'd actually like performance wise, see if there are any brands you'd prefer to get. Do some research into Watercooling as a whole.

I've only just started on the route of WC, but I've done a lot of research myself, of course asking for some help, but never a full spec me request, and I've just bought a complete loop, just waiting for a few final parts to arrive. I've much preferred to actually find out stuff myself rather than just get told stuff to get, because if you do that, when it comes, you'll have little idea of how to put it together.
 
As above, if you're going to do anything you need to know how it works and the reason why you bought what you did.

Im just building my first watercooled pc and there is more than enough info on the forum, look through build logs, other peoples questions and the answers. Look through Overclockers and get a basket together of things you need, compare different makes etc and research the best ones. Its much more rewarding.

As the saying goes, if you fail to prepare you must prepare to fail.
 
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18098414
That's the thread I started not long ago about watercooling, when I started that I had only a very slight idea about WC, but had done some research. You can see how the thread progressed I got some sound advice, and great help, and with some more research on my part I've really begun to understand how it all works together. As I say, most of my parts will be arriving Monday, so I can start getting things ready, get the rads flushed etc, ready for the rest of the parts to arrive :).
 
I posted this for guidelines requiring a WC setup. Im not saying I'm gonna order the first setup someone posts. It will be used as a reference to move onto to compare other items. As for putting the thing together, i dont see any problems in that department, Its not rocket science after all. I would have just liked a rough price guide on what the layout costs would end up for a pretty decent setup that's all.

whether its £100-£200-£300+
 
Gosteh, what was your chosen config. What order are you connecting. I have seen you forum post on watercooling.co.uk

You've got a CPU and 2 5870 CF blocks too, right?

Cheers
 
BaDBoY_uK said:
Gosteh, what was your chosen config. What order are you connecting. I have seen you forum post on watercooling.co.uk

You've got a CPU and 2 5870 CF blocks too, right?

Cheers
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My final config is the following;

1 x EK-Supreme HighFlow CPU Block - Acetal 775/1156/1366/AM3
2 x EK-FC5870 5870 CF - Acetal

1 x 12V Laing DDC-1T Ultra w/XSPC V3 Acetal Pump Top
1 x EK Multioption RES 150 Rev2
1 x XSPC RX360 Black
2 x XSPC RX120 Black

16 x Bitspower 1/4" BSPP - 1/2" ID Hose Tail - Matte Black
8 x Bitspower 1/4" BSPP 45 Degree Rotary Fitting - Matte Black
2 x Bitspower 1/4" BSPP Blank Fitting - Matte Black
1 x 1/4" BSPP EK Blanking cap
1 x 1/2" - 1/2" Highflow Y Splitter - Nickel Plated
2 x 1/4" BSPP Variable SLI VID Connector 1/2/3 Slot Pack
1 x 1/4" BSPP Ball Valve

1 x 7/16" ID - 5/8" OD Clear Hose (XSPC)
2 x PrimoChill Anti-Kink Coils 5/8"- Clear
2 x Black PVC Hose Clip 5/8" OD (10 Pack)
1 x Hose Cutter
1 x PTFE Tape (PTAPE)

1 x Zalman ZM-MFC1 Plus - Black
5 x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm 1850 RPM Cooling Fan

1 x Arctic Silver ArctiClean 60ml Kit
1 x Arctic Cooling MX-3 Thermal Compound 4g
1 x Feser View 50ml Dye (UV Invisible Blue)
1 x 10ml PT PHN Nuke Concentrated Biocide
1 x 12" Quad CCFL UV Kit - Sharkoon

Total £746.45

I know I paid a rather high price for a first rig, but I'll live off noodles for a while to compensate lol.

Regarding the order, I'll probably go the following way, with some very small changes, as nicely drawn by JonJ678 :D
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woozor said:
whether its £100-£200-£300+
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As a rule of thumb major parts x £50 = new loop
So simple CPU>Rad>Res>Pump = £200
Duel gpu loop NB>CPU>Rad>res>Pump + GPU>GPU>Rad>res>Pump = £500

Full cover gpu blocks are more that £50
res = res+tube+barbs+clips/ties = £50

A secondhand loop will save you 30-40% on rad/res/pump/'new' cpu blocks
50-60% off barbs/tube
70% off fullcover gpu blocks/'old' cpu blocks

Metal or POM Acetal parts are amost indestructable - but plexi/acrylic parts can be stained/cracked
Worth knowing if getting secondhand stuff.
 
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Ay? £500? Bugger that!

Pump £50
CPU block £30
120.3 rad £70
Res £30
Basic fitting & Tubing £20
= £200 (agreed)

Drop in 2x full cover blocks at about £80 each and some fittings and your talking a further £180
Total £380!!

You dont have to go dual loop just because you got 1 or 2 GPU's in the loop.

Also to Ghosteh
I used to run a rig with a 120.2 and a 120.1 rad in it, SLI with 2 full cover GPU's (old rig I add!) and I got better temps with the 120.1 OUT of the loop that with it! I think it added to much restriction and lots of bends in the loop.
If you do want an extra 120.1 maybe use a bay fan and fit it to the front behind that, so you are drawing in cool air rather than warmer case air.
Then you could go res->pump->bottom GPU->top GPU->CPU->120.3(top and turn round so barbs at front)->120.1(front with barbs at bottom)->res
Or use a DDC with a restop? You can still fit a fill port to it in the top using an adaptor and as its so low fit a t-piece in the bottom for a drain port?
 
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I don't know if everybody who gets into WC is like this, but I've found myself spending a crapload of cash since I setup my first loop.

I bought 2nd hand gear to begin with to get me up and running, but since then I've ended up buying a bunch of other things because I've wanted to improve my cooling solution..

I'd have probably been better off just buying the new stuff to begin with really, it would have saved me money in the long run..

In total I've probably spent in the region of £450 on WC bits, and there's still some little things I need to get to finish it off!!!

It's a bloody expensive hobby, it's almost as if the watercooling side of things has became a totally seperate hobby from building PC's... is anyone else here like this or is it just me?!?!
 
DavyBoy said:
It's a bloody expensive hobby, it's almost as if the watercooling side of things has became a totally seperate hobby from building PC's... is anyone else here like this or is it just me?!?!
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I believe I'll be ending up like that! I've been building PC's for so long it's not so much of a hobby any more, just something that needs to be done. Not much can go wrong really. However watercooling seems to be a completely different kettle of fish, really looking forward to getting my loop installed, working out best way of doing the loop, and the fact it's potentially dangerous(to my hardware lol).
 
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Yeah, I'm also waiting on that "one more delivery" that I need before I start.

By then I'll have another idea or realize I forgot something... delivery costs for all these seperate orders are killing me. My 2nd loop will not be ordered until I am 110% sure I have my design finalized and parts researched and every inch of the loop accounted for.

I will say this though, getting the parts in my hands actually demystified the whole process quite a lot. When you can touch something and start connecting things together, it's like a moment of clarity.
 
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