Henry Cavill to play Conor McCloud?

The first movie is a classic, and I had a lot of fun with the animated series as a kid.

The live action series was decent until the last season also, and The Search for Vengeance (Extended cut) anime style movie was actually pretty good.

The live action movies after the first are pretty pants though.
 
Rather than a reboot of the original movie, they should leave it be and just reboot the sequels. Maybe introduce The Watchers and The Hunters and have the film told from their perspectives.
 
Random Guy Esq. said:
The original was *****, tbf. It might have been so cheesey it was fun in the eighties, but time has not been kind to it.
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I watched it again recently as it was on Netflix. It hasn't really aged well at all. Bar Kurgan the acting was just poor.

The special effects, direction and soundtrack are second to none but the core of it is just poor. Especially the acting.

Robocop which is a similar film of the same time stands up far better.
 
EddScott said:
Anyone know that The Kruger is also Mr Crabs from Spongebob?

Always makes me smile that one :)
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You mean The Kurgen? This is the Kruger.

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adam cool dude said:
I watched it again recently as it was on Netflix. It hasn't really aged well at all. Bar Kurgan the acting was just poor.

The special effects, direction and soundtrack are second to none but the core of it is just poor. Especially the acting.

Robocop which is a similar film of the same time stands up far better.
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I found a good recording of it on my Sky box from 2017. I haven't watched it since probably the CRT TV/VHS days. There were a lot of interesting things I had noticed of it in HD and on OLED. The amount of matte paintings they used in the time battle sequences. How distinct some of the Ramirez and Connor training who were stunt doubles up high on the rocks. Sean Connery's stand in I could have sworn was a woman when you see one moment of them up on a tall rock swinging their swords slowly.

The colour pallete is so different than what I remember from the CRT days. No doubt some of the guns were fading, black crush and so on. The picture in HD looked stunning, beautiful colours and shadow detail. More so the part when the ex army guy drills the Kurgan in the alley. That scene was so different to what I once remember.
The bar from to Madison Square Garden was a stunning scene as well.

The Silvercup end fight still seems to look not bad. Some nice lighting to it.

In so many ways it reminds me of the same special effects Masters of the Universe had.

However I bet you didn't say the acting etc was poor when you saw it in the early 90s.



Several other things I'm also shocked to find out...

This guy was in The Crow and The Rockateer.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0689237/?ref_=tt_cl_t8

Kastagir was also in The Phantom Menace.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0702934/?ref_=tt_cl_t9

Kate that wanted to Burn him after he survived, was in Mamma Mia, Calendar Girls, Nanny McPhee, Star Wars.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0408309/?ref_=tt_cl_t14

I was also shocked, Rachel who lost an eye and died from face cancer, who her husband was also one of the pilots in the first Star Wars.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0321096/?ref_=tt_cl_t7

James Cosmo, well... He's almost practically in everything. Including Bank ads.

Interesting how so many were in Star Wars.
The guy in the car park fight.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0224701/?ref_=tt_cl_t11
 
I will be treating this as a completely separate film and franchise with the same title. You cant improve on the original as it is the original.
 
Tombstone said:
Such an unneeded reboot. The visuals, the music, the characters. Whatever they do cannot improve on the original.
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It's poor in many ways and great in many ways. I do like the original and think that the good elements outweigh the bad, overall.
I like the over-theatrical and flamboyant nature of it and also the daft and silly parts like the Kurgan nicking off with granny's car. Others will hate it for that. Even Lambert's well dodgy Scottish accent is quite endearing - to me anyway.
I like Henry Cavill. I'd watch a reboot of it.
 
V F said:
I found a good recording of it on my Sky box from 2017. I haven't watched it since probably the CRT TV/VHS days. There were a lot of interesting things I had noticed of it in HD and on OLED. The amount of matte paintings they used in the time battle sequences. How distinct some of the Ramirez and Connor training who were stunt doubles up high on the rocks. Sean Connery's stand in I could have sworn was a woman when you see one moment of them up on a tall rock swinging their swords slowly.

The colour pallete is so different than what I remember from the CRT days. No doubt some of the guns were fading, black crush and so on. The picture in HD looked stunning, beautiful colours and shadow detail. More so the part when the ex army guy drills the Kurgan in the alley. That scene was so different to what I once remember.
The bar from to Madison Square Garden was a stunning scene as well.

The Silvercup end fight still seems to look not bad. Some nice lighting to it.

In so many ways it reminds me of the same special effects Masters of the Universe had.

However I bet you didn't say the acting etc was poor when you saw it in the early 90s.
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Acting is one issue, it does suffer badly from very amateurish editing choices in many scenes (celluloid editing had its issues, but in this case I genuinely think it's DOP's fault, so many scenes in this movie were shot so badly it's almost as if it was someone's first movie).
And then there is absolutely shocking and atrocious sound design. Sword duels with overlapping noises of someone hammering on pipes with microphone levels set to 11. Hand guns that sound like someone firing Katyusha rocket launchers in a deep canyon. Repeated screams, each recorded and acted so poorly they could be the "Wilhelm Scream" meme for next generations. Loads of grotesque B movie cheesiness in sound design.
 
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