Heroes

just Scott · 23 May 2007 at 16:14

Psycho Sonny said:
peter cant do that, he has to absorb their power from them, he doesnt have telekenisis or the memory one, from sylar, and he doesnt have the cutting thing sylar does, so he doesnt have everyones powers, it looks as if he cant absorb sylars powers, and he hasnt been able to time travel yet either and he doesnt fly much, he only uses his invisibilty power mostly

He does have telekinesis. He used it to stop Claude from hitting him with the big stick when he was teaching him.

The cutting thing is telekinesis btw.

Just because he doesn't do them often doesn't mean he can;t.

bledd · 23 May 2007 at 16:40

the only thing i don't like about this show is the massive overuse of the word hero

dafloppyone · 23 May 2007 at 16:47

H2F Scott said:
To be honest I don't think there's going to be an adventure with Hiro next season. I think he's going to find someone, and then teleport himself back to the present. I hope so anyway, a whole season in the 17th century wouldn't really be very good I don't think.

lol I think it willl be a paradox where hero uses his sword to unite china or japan or whatever it is. the story that was told a few episodes back

THMRK · 23 May 2007 at 16:48

Peters shown that hes adept at using some of his powers (invisibility, regeneration, precog) but not all of them. I think thats a suitable explaination as to why he didn't fly off himself. He was using everything he could to stop himself from exploding there and then. I think if he had tried any other power he would have lost control totally. He has shown he could use more than one power at any given time in the future (he used his telekinesis and frozen time). He has said a few times that he didn't have total control over his ability yet. He said so when Claude disappeared, and the end happened a week or so later so I don't see how it could have changed come then.

I think if he had been shot in the head the bullet would have been lodged in there until it was removed and that'd probably involve cutting his head open in order to revive him...

THMRK · 23 May 2007 at 16:52

dafloppyone said:
lol I think it willl be a paradox where hero uses his sword to unite china or japan or whatever it is. the story that was told a few episodes back

I think that basically it'll go in the same direction that the 2nd season will take. He'll have a look into his heritige and become a much better warrior while learning what it is to be a hero from his hero.

SexyGreyFox · 23 May 2007 at 17:25

For such a brilliant series that was one crap ending.

Psycho Sonny · 23 May 2007 at 17:52

since peters power is mimicking, it sylar kills him does he get all his powers or just the power of mimicking? and also they really should have made him meet everyone on that doctors list so he could get all their powers, hes just a noob

Manlove is my forte · 23 May 2007 at 23:33

Nothing to say that both patrellis are not alive. Nathan could have taken Peter into the upper atmosphere above the Atlantic and let go, flying himself to safety

It winds me up that Syler lived. He is a tough old sob. what is worse no one saw him crawl away.

Hiro will probably learn the art of combat from his hero.

Patrelli has the power of all the heros he has come in contact with, so he also has the powers of the Haitian and the voice control lady that was friends with Seresh at the beginning. He just isn't aware of them. He probably also has all of Sylers other powers too. But because Syler only revealed Telekinesis that is all Peter is aware of.

Syler does eat their brains. That is why he lobotomizes them and the head is later found to be empty. (as show in earlier killings)

I suspect that Peters pre-Issac-cognition dreams were something to do with the old guy he was looking after, maybe his power (maybe his mums)

I think Syler can levitate himself via his telekinesis which explains how he jumped so high when Matt Shot at him in the FBI headquarters when Syler attempted to get Molly for the "Second" time. This would also explain how he came from nowhere in the final battle (he was hovering)

Syler has much greater mastery of his powers than most of the people he acquired them from. This is due to him being much more willing to use them, but also due to his main power, the immediate understanding of all mechanical and biological things he is able to understand the way the powers work better than their original owners. (however we do see some bedding in time for example when he got the hearing)

just Scott · 23 May 2007 at 23:39

Kronologic said:
Nothing to say that both patrellis are not alive. Nathan could have taken Peter into the upper atmosphere above the Atlantic and let go, flying himself to safety

It winds me up that Syler lived. He is a tough old sob. what is worse no one saw him crawl away.

Hiro will probably learn the art of combat from his hero.

Patrelli has the power of all the heros he has come in contact with, so he also has the powers of the Haitian and the voice control lady that was friends with Seresh at the beginning. He just isn't aware of them. He probably also has all of Sylers other powers too. But because Syler only revealed Telekinesis that is all Peter is aware of.

Syler does eat their brains. That is why he lobotomizes them and the head is later found to be empty. (as show in earlier killings)

I suspect that Peters pre-Issac-cognition dreams were something to do with the old guy he was looking after, maybe his power (maybe his mums)

I think Syler can levitate himself via his telekinesis which explains how he jumped so high when Matt Shot at him in the FBI headquarters when Syler attempted to get Molly for the "Second" time. This would also explain how he came from nowhere in the final battle (he was hovering)

Syler has much greater mastery of his powers than most of the people he acquired them from. This is due to him being much more willing to use them, but also due to his main power, the immediate understanding of all mechanical and biological things he is able to understand the way the powers work better than their original owners. (however we do see some bedding in time for example when he got the hearing)

Great post.

And yeah they've already confirmed that Nathan will be back. I can't remember where I read it though.

xyphic · 23 May 2007 at 23:57

Don't know if this has been said anywhere yet. I skimmed the last page or two. Apparently the BBC has outbid everyone for full rights to Season 2 of Heroes. They're showing S1 from the summer, and *hopefully* we'll get S2 shortly after that finishes. In a decent timeslot. And uncut. And possibly in HD.

Fingers crossed anyway.

As for S1, I loved the finale. The show stayed true to itself -- it's all about the characters, and none of them behaved out of character. I'd have been disappointed with a huge super-powered battle, because that's *not* what the show has been about. (I hope it gets there eventually though!)

THMRK · 24 May 2007 at 01:06

Kronologic said:
Nothing to say that both patrellis are not alive. Nathan could have taken Peter into the upper atmosphere above the Atlantic and let go, flying himself to safety

It winds me up that Syler lived. He is a tough old sob. what is worse no one saw him crawl away.

Hiro will probably learn the art of combat from his hero.

Patrelli has the power of all the heros he has come in contact with, so he also has the powers of the Haitian and the voice control lady that was friends with Seresh at the beginning. He just isn't aware of them. He probably also has all of Sylers other powers too. But because Syler only revealed Telekinesis that is all Peter is aware of.

If he does have "The Voice" (which I'm still unsure of because I can't remember them meeting) he almost certainly used it when he arrived in Issacs apartment moments before Issac shot Simone.

I dunno if he has all of Sylars powers. Peters DNA basically recodes its self to that of the person that he absorbs the power from, which like Mohinder said, makes him like a sponge. If you think back to when Sylar got caught by The Company, the person doing the tests on him said that the only ability they could see Sylar had, the only marker in his DNA, was his telekinesis. They knew he had other powers obviously, but there was simply no biological evidence. So I think it stands to reason that because the only power present in Sylars DNA is his telekinesis, it's the only power that Peter can absorb due to his DNAs nature to recode it's self to others abilities.

tuckenator · 24 May 2007 at 02:44

Woody__ said:
So I think it stands to reason that because the only power present in Sylars DNA is his telekinesis, it's the only power that Peter can absorb due to his DNAs nature to recode it's self to others abilities.

But Sylar's original power is not telekinesis, it is his ability to identify 'broken' things and 'fix' them, so then that should be the only power present in his DNA, therefore if peter has his telekinesis then he should be able to absorb all of sylers other powers.

I also thought the finale was good, but a bit weak on the 'big fight' front. Especially after all the bigging up that was done by the trailers. Still can't wait for saeason 2!

Psyk · 24 May 2007 at 12:37

tuckenator said:
But Sylar's original power is not telekinesis, it is his ability to identify 'broken' things and 'fix' them, so then that should be the only power present in his DNA, therefore if peter has his telekinesis then he should be able to absorb all of sylers other powers.

I also thought the finale was good, but a bit weak on the 'big fight' front. Especially after all the bigging up that was done by the trailers. Still can't wait for saeason 2!

Presumably that means Peter has absorbed the power to be able to eat people's brains and take their powers. Which of course is completely redundant and not something he would do anyway.

Styles · 24 May 2007 at 13:07

When will season 2 be out then?

THMRK · 24 May 2007 at 15:32

tuckenator said:
But Sylar's original power is not telekinesis, it is his ability to identify 'broken' things and 'fix' them, so then that should be the only power present in his DNA, therefore if peter has his telekinesis then he should be able to absorb all of sylers other powers.

I also thought the finale was good, but a bit weak on the 'big fight' front. Especially after all the bigging up that was done by the trailers. Still can't wait for saeason 2!

Yeah, I know that. But like I said, the only evidence of him having any ability that they could find in his genetic code was his telekinesis.

Manlove is my forte · 24 May 2007 at 15:54

Woody__ said:
Yeah, I know that. But like I said, the only evidence of him having any ability that they could find in his genetic code was his telekinesis.

Actually, you are wrong. The only power that Syler exhibited when in captivity was telekinesis they said nothing about DNA. I don't even think they had the ability to identify from the DNA a persons ability, only Seresh and his father knew how to do that.

THMRK · 24 May 2007 at 16:08

Kronologic said:
Actually, you are wrong. The only power that Syler exhibited when in captivity was telekinesis they said nothing about DNA. I don't even think they had the ability to identify from the DNA a persons ability, only Seresh and his father knew how to do that.

They are able to find out down to the level of the DNA what the power is. After rewatching the episode Hank says that they can't do that because they would have to kill him in order to achieve it.

It seems you are right, but why Peter hasn't displayed any other of Sylars ability is somewhat of a mystery.

<Dubz> · 25 May 2007 at 08:04

Volume Two: Generations begins in 122 days on NBC.
The NBC Fall season starts Monday, September 24, 2007.

Not to bad, not sure i can wait that long though...

Good Episode, i'm wondering if syler still has those powers as you see those flashes in his eyes at the end as if the powers were going....

.....hmmm.

Alex_6n2 · 25 May 2007 at 08:27

Kronologic said:
Syler does eat their brains. That is why he lobotomizes them and the head is later found to be empty. (as show in earlier killings)

From what I've read acctually SylAr doesn't. He is able to see how things work and only needs to look at someone's brain to be able to take their power.

Doesn't explain why their heads are empty though :/

Meh

Manlove is my forte · 25 May 2007 at 15:16

Alex_6n2 said:
From what I've read acctually SylAr doesn't. He is able to see how things work and only needs to look at someone's brain to be able to take their power.

Doesn't explain why their heads are empty though :/

Meh

Its heavily referenced in the dialogs that he does. However they do not out and out say it because the writers think that by saying it, the story will lose a bit of credibility.

The heads are empty and the brains are never found because he eats them.