high standards web design ?

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Had a chat with a friend, hes just graduated uni at distinction level (or so he got for all his courseworks in previous years and are predicted for his end result) about some web design.

Hes quouted me the following.

5 page web site £400
cubecart based ecommerce site with no products listed £900.

do these seem fair ? Im not great at design but I dont think the cubecart one could be too hard. Heres an example of his work :

http://www.sweet-pea.co.uk/

Im obviously going to barter him down as to me these prices seem a lot, and ofcourse he said I will get mates rates :) something I will extend to him aswell when my shop is completed.

Thanks
 
*original post removed because I hadn't read the OP properly*

I would say it's a fair price. I also think it's fair to say that you have less of an idea as to the tricky and subtle balancing act of designing a useful e-commerce front-end than he does.

If you're happy with him haggling for even lower prices in your shop, then by all means try and haggle him down from his 'mates rate'.

Alternatively, you could both realise that you're trying to run profitable businesses and charge what you would for non-mates.
 
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£400 for 5 page design. Most of the elements will remain consistent so for arguments sake it would be like creating 2.5 entirely different pages.

Thats £400/2.5 = £160/page. Lets give him quite a low hourly rate of £20/hour, that is 8hours, so 1 working day, per design. That's not a lot is it? 8 hours to create/tweak/perfect a design that is exactly what you want. That isn't along time for someone fresh out of uni with a work example like sweet-pea. Ask him how many hours that design took to get an idea.

If that £400 includes making the designs static pages, xHTML/CSS then that would be atleast another 10+ hours so that again knocks his hourly rate down.

Then the implementation of the eCommerce system for £500 seems fair to me for setting up the system with no products. Putting products into the system is never a designer/developers part so if you have a lot then you'll have to set aside a good bit of time to get the images/descriptions correct!
 
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