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Craigius

Craigius

Craigius

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Hi all

Im having all the flooring up in the house in the next few weeks due to some building work, as a result of this I'm going to run CAT6 to most rooms in the house, I'm going to have a patch panel and switch in the garage, there will be about 14 connections across the rooms again these are going to be terminated to face plates.

My question is is this cable going to be OK to use

http://www.netstoredirect.com/cat6-cable/66-excel-cat6-utp-cable.html

all the runs will come up out of the garage and up the stairs so there is potential for about 14 cables to be side by side going up on to the first landing then they will be split off to different rooms, non of the CAT cable will run past any electrical wiring.

The underlay and carpet will laid on top of the wires when the installation is completed.
 
Cable is fine, you sure 100m is enough?
If it is going under the floorboards then space shouldn't be a problem, however they are much more thicker and rigid compared to Cat5e.
 
Sorry I'm going to get 305 meters I think to be sure I have enough, going for the CAT6 for future proof as the flooring wont be coming up for a long time after this work is done.
 
takes me back used to be in technical dptment of cable ĉompany, we were the first to design and make cat 6.

my advice would get the screened version ftp, its not much more expensive.

when you install it, dont have any tight bends in it, and try to buy quality connectors, you be very supprised how much difference connectors make

good luck
 
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Why screened? An unnecessary complication if you ask me and pointless unless you use all screen parts, and they will add to the cost. You've also got grounding issues to deal with.

Stick to UTP and you'll be fine, even if it does need to run near mains wiring at some points.
 
bremen1874 said:
Why screened? An unnecessary complication if you ask me and pointless unless you use all screen parts, and they will add to the cost. You've also got grounding issues to deal with.

Stick to UTP and you'll be fine, even if it does need to run near mains wiring at some points.[/QUOTE

:) trying not to sound like a smarty pants.

screened cable has pracrically zero cance of picking up any electrical noise, or crosstalk, noise from cable to cable as each cable is indiviually wrapped by a thin foil tape.

you talk of grounding issue, within thé cable there is a o.5mm wire called a drain wire this is next to the foil tape it connects to the connector so when the conneector is inserted into a patch panel it is earthed so the whole cables screen is earthed, so no chance of eatrhing problems.

if your going to the effort of using cat6 might as well fit the best cable, not much of a difference in price. you will pick up noise from mains cable uing utp probably wont cause any problems, īn the reäl world but it wouldnt pass cat 6 specs for sure, tested many many thousands of cat 6 cables and connection hardware.
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So you're saying that a networked installed using UTP Cat6 cable is incapable of passing certification?

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Just re-read your post I and think you're actually saying that with UTP it isn't guaranteed to pass? Possibly true, but in 14 drop domestic install where all of the runs are going to relatively short I don't think it's much of an issue.
 
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utp can picks up noise probably be ok.

ftp picks up litrilly no noise ät all, any noise pocked up goes to chassis earth down the screen.

my point is the poster is going to the effort of usīng cat 6 might as well go fit the best just my 2ps worth.

believe it or not short runs make no difference really, standard BS tests are tested at 100m.
 
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Better go rip out all my network cable at work - can't possibly be working given that it's only UTP.

Seriously it's for home. and at Gigabit speeds at best - it isn't going to matter one bit. Cat5e would have been fine, given that there is still no push for 10Gb to the Desktop.

EDIT: Might as well spec some SF/FTP, can't possibly have any crosstalk whilst the OP is facebooking for example
 
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Ok thanks guys for all the input, my last question is..

My router is by my front door into the master socket, now all the switch and stuff is going to be in the garage, so do I

Move the Wireless router to the garage (by extending the telephone cable)

Or leave the router where it is and run some CAT6 cables off the back of the Lan ports to the switch.

I would favour the second option as the wireless coverage for laptops and i-pads is better where the router is located.
 
Craigius said:
Im having all the flooring up in the house in the next few weeks due to some building work, as a result of this I'm going to run CAT6 to most rooms in the house, I'm going to have a patch panel and switch in the garage, there will be about 14 connections across the rooms again these are going to be terminated to face plates.
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14 sockets? That's not very many. If you're having everything up, put one double socket in opposite corners of every room - 4 sockets per room - or each corner if you can afford it - 8 sockets per room. Do the same for the power. Yes it seems like overkill, but what you pay now you will reap in convenience later.

If at all possible have the patch panel and main switch in your house rather than the garage, again for convenience.
 
Quartz said:
14 sockets? That's not very many. If you're having everything up, put one double socket in opposite corners of every room - 4 sockets per room - or each corner if you can afford it - 8 sockets per room. Do the same for the power. Yes it seems like overkill, but what you pay now you will reap in convenience later.

If at all possible have the patch panel and main switch in your house rather than the garage, again for convenience.
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Which ever room in my house has a TV I have atleast 4 minimum ethernet sockets for all multimedia and gaming needs. Bedrooms all have 2. However more the merrier especially when the floorboards are off and you have ample room to do runs. Who knows what kind of home automation innovations there will be in the future. I know that some smart door bells and alarm systems use ethernet. Whether the op has a need for them is another thing. I've reserved some ports on my switch for poe cctv when I get round to upgrading mine.
 
It's worth considering how a room could be rearranged and installing extra sockets if it seems sensible, but most people just don't need so many ports.

Having the switch and patch panel in the garage seems perfectly sensible. How often are you going to be re-patching? If you have 14 ports and a 16 port switch you'd never need to go near it.

I personally ran a single port to behind my TV. This was mainly because it was an external cable, but it was also good enough. It's a Gigabit link connected to a Gigabit switch behind the TV. The TV can only be doing one thing at a time so the single Gigabit link is fine.

Blindly applying the rules you'd use for a business network to a domestic situation seems a bit daft.
 
The default reaction on this forum seems to be to recommend relatively large numbers of ports in every room to cover every possible scenario.

In many cases the people providing the recommendations are the same people that only a few weeks earlier were asking really basic networking questions.

Recommending eight ports in every room without any direct knowledge of the building or its use is pointless.
 
I have gone with 4 ports behind the tv in the living room, 4 in the main bedroom then 2 in each of the two remaining bedrooms so 12 in total, certain devices can always use wifi where bandwidth isn't an issue.
 
bremen1874 said:
The default reaction on this forum seems to be to recommend relatively large numbers of ports in every room to cover every possible scenario.

In many cases the people providing the recommendations are the same people that only a few weeks earlier were asking really basic networking questions.

Recommending eight ports in every room without any direct knowledge of the building or its use is pointless.
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To be honest I was going to go for 4 in the lounge area and then 2 everywhere else in bedrooms and such, maybe 4 in my computer room.
 
robj20 said:
I have gone with 4 ports behind the tv in the living room,
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That's a good idea: one for the TV, one for the DVR, one for the BD player, and one for the games PC or console, I presume? It might be a good idea to have a pair of ports elsewhere in the living room - somewhere near where you have your sofa - for a WAP or so you can plug in a laptop. Or a switch if you're having people round for a games meet.

(I actually have 9 ports in use on a switch behind my TV: four ports as above, plus four for two servers, plus one upstream link, plus several more available for people when they visit.)
 
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