Homeplug adapters.

MiOB

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Hey mates,

Does any of you use HomePlug AV adapters? (200mbps) Perhaps Edimax's?

I've this problem, tell me if it's ever happened to you:
I purchased two units of Edimax HP-2001AV, plugged the first in then the second, and everything worked properly. (Speed indicator was RED, meaning not so great, but it was enough.)

An hour later I wanted to switch one of them to another socket, for perhaps it would yield better speeds, so I unplugged one of them and plugged it in another socket in the same room, but from that point it was never in sync with the second unit. No matter what I tried (reset button, leave and rejoin a group button, plug it in the socket it once worked from.) it ceased syncing.

I sent the units back to store and it sent me two new units.
I plugged them in the sockets, everything worked properly again. Then, two days later I had to rearrange my room, therefore had to unplug one of the units. After I had finished rearranging my room, I plugged the unit back in the socket, and guess what? :o:(

It ceased syncing again. :eek:

What the heck is it?
Edimax itself is pretty useless, telling me it's either my own mains or the units have again dropped dead.

Has anyone of you ever experienced such a situation?
Do you know of any compatibility problems HomePlug might have?

Thanks and cheers. :)
 
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that is a weird one.

is it the same two sockets that you used first time ?

have you tested them in different two sockets?
 
Yeah, I tried to plug them back in the original two socket from where it once worked, but it still did not, and I also tried every combination of sockets. :confused:
 
Sockets in the same room should be on the same ring main but theres no guarantee they are and have a good connection.

I would suggest putting them very close together and checking how they appear in the configuration software from your PC if you connect directly.

Those units have group buttoms to make separate networks, double check you ae following the instructions exactly to get them on the same group

3 seconds on the reset button should put them back to factory defaults

No obvius reason why they should behave so badly unless a reset is occureing on disconnection.
 
Thanks mates.

Believe me, I have tried ALL ways possible. :o

Anyhow, I've received the new ones today, this time by Airlive. As for now they operate properly. If they drop dead, I've still got a few other companies to try out. :p

I've two questions by the way:

1. Is it possible to know which chip a company uses in its products?
Are there several Homeplug chips, or are all manufactured by Intellon?

2. Does a unit also act as a repeater?
For example, if there's a unit at point A and at point C and the speed is not so good, will a unit at point B (let's say, in the "middle".) upgrade the speed?

Cheers! :D
 
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MiOB said:
I've two questions by the way:

1. Is it possible to know which chip a company uses in its products?
Are there several Homeplug chips, or are all manufactured by Intellon?

2. Does a unit also act as a repeater?
For example, if there's a unit at point A and at point C and the speed is not so good, will a unit at point B (let's say, in the "middle".) upgrade the speed?

Cheers! :D
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1 There are several chipsets mostly intellon but TI as well, possibly others using different technologies generally refferred to as powerline Which you have should not matter if you check they al meet a standard like homeplug AV.

They dont seem to be repeaters, its point to point but they do take the best route
 
1. I thought perhaps one chipset would have a better compatibility to my home mains than other. That is, if I tried only Intellon up until now and it has not been good, perhaps another chipset would work properly.

2. Could you elaborate about it? That is, will more units spread throughout the house upgrade the whole speed / signal? Or will the signal from point A to C will never go through B or D?

Thanks. :)
 
I used to have this problem with an 85mb set i have, as soon as i moved one unit to a different socket nothing would happen! The router would assign the homeplug or attached device some ip address that was completely out of range. I'm not sure what i did (manual set up perhaps?) but once the addresses were configured and everything reset it's not been a problem since. Sorry if that sounds baloney but it worked for me.
 
Thank you for your answer muzller, but my problem was different, since the units did not "see" each other at all.

MiOB said:
1. I thought perhaps one chipset would have a better compatibility to my home mains than other. That is, if I tried only Intellon up until now and it has not been good, perhaps another chipset would work properly.

2. Could you elaborate about it? That is, will more units spread throughout the house upgrade the whole speed / signal? Or will the signal from point A to C will never go through B or D?

Thanks. :)
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mates?
 
Intellon have one of the longest histories with this technology and a lot of patents. The Intellon utility comes in various flavours many version will tell you which chipest and firmware you have.

They are not repeaters, they negotiated end point to end point transmit and receive by the best route they can detect. If you have enough adapters you can bridge two ring mains and possibly make a shorter faster route.

I still think your problems are probably issues with the encryption/gtoup settings. Are you actually using the software utility?
 
I have indeed used the software utility, but it did not help at all.
However, is the group / security button not supposed to do the above without the software utility?

errata said:
If you have enough adapters you can bridge two ring mains and possibly make a shorter faster route.
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As for the units, the situation is the following; Right now there's unit A in my room, connected to the router. Unit B is in my brother's room.
The speed indicator shows red, which is pretty bad. If I connect a third unit (PC in living-room.) and a fourth unit (PC in another bedroom.), could it possibly help the speed to my brother's?
I mean, does it bridge automatically or must I do it?
 
just adding extra units will not enhance the signal as they dont repeat data
using 2 extra units you could experiment with bridging your ring main circuits to try an make a better path

ie

unit a>ringmain>unitb>ehteret cable>unitc>ring main>unit d

the results woud entirely depend on wheterh units b and c and the ethernet cable make a better route (the ehternet cable would be inconveniant also)


The sugestion of using the software was to ensure you know if the paswords/groups are all the same
 
Thanks errate, I see the point now. :)

As for the security matter:
When I plug in new "out of the box" units, they just get synchronized by themselves, correct?
Then, when I unplug one unit and plug it in another socket, is the security / group synchronization changed by doing so?
I've always thought that since these were the same units, they would keep their last security / group synchronization.
 
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Well, I know it's not secured by default, that's why I wrote security / group.
So is group synchronization lost when I unplug a unit and then plug it in?
 
I dont have those units most of my units have no on device buttons, but your right it would be odd if they changed just because they got moved provided you did nothing else. You really need to check the instructions and see what they say
 
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