Honda and Nissan (and maybe Mitsubishi) merger

I don’t buy the over engineered bit about Honda. They may have been in the 80’s and 90’s. They could never do an efficient diesel. The 04-07 diesel engines had crappy bottom ends. And the petrols were always thirsty compared to their peers. Recents civics were plastic fantastic, same for the current and last gen CRV. I had a 2010 accord and it was a good looking car and drove well, but the e90 and B8 were better cars, it was at the same price point.

Shame we never got some of the funkier Japanese versions of Honda in the UK/EU.
 
Nasher said:
Honda are expensive because they are well engineered. They stick with well proven technology and make it at a standard above everyone else, a few steps above some...
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Up until last July we had a 2015 CR-V and it was great, a proper workhorse that handled everything that was thrown at in some properly rural areas. Sadly, the clutch let go and one thing led to another and it was going to cost quite a bit to get it fixed so it had to go.
 
Nasher said:
Honda are expensive because they are well engineered. They stick with well proven technology and make it at a standard above everyone else, a few steps above some...

Nissan used to be like them a long time ago. Since Renault involvement some of their cars have been crap (like the Juke).
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Troll gonna troll. Same guy says German cars overpriced but ignores the engineering
 
I'm a fan of some Honda cars but the days of them being over-engineered are long gone. Everything post 2000 ish (NSX and S2000 aside) are just the same as anything else out of Japan. Probably better than the European stuff for reliability but still built down to a cost.
I have no idea why some people hold them in such high esteem. They haven't made a truly great car since the last NSX and even that was a commercial failure.
 
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Troll gonna troll. Same guy says German cars overpriced but ignores the engineering
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German cars are a lot less reliable though...

Especially when it comes to engines and gearboxes. You only have to look at the list of known issues with VW engines. BMW were bad until Toyota rebuilt their engine for them while designing the Supra/Z4.
 
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Dunno mate. My 14 year old BMW is problem free. But i guess you never owned one to know.

Which EV and BMW you owned pat?
 
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Nasher said:
German cars are a lot less reliable though...

Especially when it comes to engines and gearboxes. You only have to look at the list of known issues with VW engines. BMW were bad until Toyota rebuilt their engine for them while designing the Supra/Z4.
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Supra literally dropped in a b58. Nothing to do with Yamaha
 
Toyota 1CD-FTV and 2AD diesels werent great, crappy bottom ends, rattly chains etc, the 1.8 petrol in the corolla and celica were also trouble some. The 2.2 cdti in the civic and accord had issues with chains.

The hybrid drive train is bullet proof though, the Prius just goes on and on. 3-400k is very easily achievable.
 
Nasher said:
German cars are a lot less reliable though...

Especially when it comes to engines and gearboxes. You only have to look at the list of known issues with VW engines. BMW were bad until Toyota rebuilt their engine for them while designing the Supra/Z4.
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Blah. Blah. Boring. Imagine being so angry at the world you feel the need to post this chunder.

Doesn’t Dennis need to get Nasher on a leash?
 
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