Horse boxes

I can't say I've ever made a negative mental note regarding horse transport, asides from they drive quite slowly which is understandable.

As for horses, I've had an equally clean record. I slow down massively and give as much room as the opposite verge allows, I make as little engine noise as I can around them. They have always been polite back, even when I've arrived at quite some speed and scrubbed it all before reaching them.

Oh, I did one follow a couple of gyppos riding two of those racing carts behind a pair of horses on both lanes of a busy dual carriageway. They were ****s.
 
Newer ones are fine. It's the knocking on 20 / 30 year old ones that are obviously run on a shoe string with aging suspension that throw the horse around so they have to go even slower belching fumes.

How some of them pass an mot beggers belief.

Also driven by people who have driving about 5 down on their priority list at the time.

I sometimes tag along to the events my girlfriend goes to with her horse, along with my best friend (his GF is also a horsochist). We were at one a few weeks ago and standing in the paddock area where all the horse boxes were, when one drove past us that looked like it has just arrived from 1955. Wooden bodywork, leaf springs that looked like they'd seen better days and belching smoke as it seemed to having trouble at negotiating the smallest of inclines. Looked like a deathtrap.

Luckily, most boxes are pretty modern and well maintained. You should see some of the super massive RV type ones - very luxurious.

A woman in work recently went though her HGV test so she can cart her horse(s) around, good god horses must be an expensive hobby...

people seem to recoil in shock at the cost when i tell them i do a few track days which cost probably £300-400 a day all in but i bet that's nout on owning a horse!

I also deeply hate horses :p

Just asked my girlfriend - hers costs her a minimum of about £350 a month. That's living out on grass livery and not including all the extras like lessons, travelling to and entry to events, etc etc.

Horse related road users are generally very bad ime.

- riders wearing POLITE notice high vis vests acting like the police.

I'm probably running the risk of derailing the thread somewhat here but...what exactly is it about "Polite" vests that wind up other road users so much? They aren't actually "acting like the police", are they? It's not like that the illusion that they might be real police riders last more than a few seconds until you get close enough to read the label fully.

This is a genuine question, because I used to also hate the idea of "POLITE" vests, but when I stopped and thought about it, I realised I don't really know what about them used to make me so angry. They serve a purpose in that they probably get the attention of other drivers that little bit sooner and encourage them to take more notice, so objectively, I'm not really sure they are a bad thing. Ideally they shouldn't be needed, because drivers should treat all horses/riders with the caution they deserve. But unfortunately, I think we live in a world where a lot of people will only be thinking about what they can get away with, so I can see why these POLITE vest exist.

It's not like they're pretending to be the police to the extent that they're marshalling traffic or giving you a speeding ticket or anything :p
 
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The grandfather rights on pre-97 licences will still allow you to drive a 7.5t on a standard licence

That's me then -

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I live near Hickstead and work out in the sticks, so on a sunny blast home on the twisty back route, it's almost guaranteed that a horse box, trailer or horse rider(s) will crop up along the way.

I can't choose a favourite out of them. They're all a pain for different reasons.
 
It's not like they're pretending to be the police to the extent that they're marshalling traffic or giving you a speeding ticket or anything :p

A lot of motorcyclists seem to wear them recently too. I don't know why it winds me up really. I mean, if I was driving a white Vauxhall with yellow and blue reflective tabs on then it would be the same thing.

Another road user should be able to act in a manner expected of them to command respect from other road users without having to make out that they are law enforcement for others to be cautious of them.

It's very much on the same level as 'baby on board' signs in my view. Most of us would actively avoid colliding with the rear of a car with a baby on board, but all those other cars are fair game I suppose...
 
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"I'd like to drive a large, under maintained, oddly weighted and difficult to handle vehicle on public roads please?"

"Sure, what qualifications do you have?"

"I own a horse"

"Well that's perfect, off you go"
 
I have always wondered why there are so many of them too. No matter what day of the week it is or where i am traveling to i will see a horse box. Where are all these horses going?

Tesco :p

As mentioned its the old smokers carting these things around that are the worst, big clouds, listing, can't be roadworthy.
 
"I'd like to drive a large, under maintained, oddly weighted and difficult to handle vehicle on public roads please?"

"Sure, what qualifications do you have?"

"I own a horse"

"Well that's perfect, off you go"

Not for nothing do you find horse boxes a plenty in VOSA / DSA checkpoints.

Not far from me is a 3 axle 26 ton tipper converted to horse box(!) driven by an OAP who seems way past her car license.
Scares me every time I see her coming.
 
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Is there a more erratically driven menace on our roads than these things?

Yep, they're generally bad.

But also bodykit'd Peugeot 306s. BMW X3s. The few remaining Rover 75s that can drive under their own power. Any Honda Jazz owned by someone over the age of 75. And any Audi A3, regardless of driver age or profession - they just all seem to have zero spatial awareness, or knowledge of traffic laws, or even any idea about which pedal does what.

That all being said, driving standards around here are not only appalling but also getting worse :-/
 
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Funny thing... I could swear horses have legs... four of them in fact... and they work quite well at transporting humans too... seems a little odd to substitute that for 6 or more tyres just for the sake of doing it the other way around...
 
Funny thing... I could swear horses have legs... four of them in fact... and they work quite well at transporting humans too... seems a little odd to substitute that for 6 or more tyres just for the sake of doing it the other way around...

So do you propose competitors at Aintree ride the horse they wish to race all the way across Europe?
 
Newer ones are fine. It's the knocking on 20 / 30 year old ones that are obviously run on a shoe string with aging suspension that throw the horse around so they have to go even slower belching fumes.

How some of them pass an mot beggers belief.

We have one, an F-Reg, the suspension isn't the problem it's the engine.

It's a Naturally Aspirated diesel which I believe is either a 2.0 or 2.5 Inline 4, and it has the aerodynamic profile of barn. Given that it's probably pushing about 70BHP there isn't much choice other than going slow!

It even has manual glow plugs!

It tops out at about 60MPH flat out in 4th with a tail wind and takes probably about a minute to get there.

:D
 
Funny thing... I could swear horses have legs... four of them in fact... and they work quite well at transporting humans too... seems a little odd to substitute that for 6 or more tyres just for the sake of doing it the other way around...

Yes, that's right. The only reason they do it is for the sake of change. No other reason whatsoever.
 
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