HOTAS OR HOSAS for Star Citizen etc?

Tediore said:
The Kosmosima are on the smaller side grip wise but I have large hands (XXL in racing gloves) and find them OK. The MCG grip I got with the Gunfighter base feels more 'spacious' though.

My mate has the Alpha Primes on the WarBRD-D base and they're very nice in terms of feel, build quality, etc. They are very large grips though especially in terms of their thickness. You should be alright with them as long as your hands are long and not just wide.

Virpil's customer service has been fantastic too. My mate had an ever so slight creak on the Z axis of one of his sticks. He took it in (lives 5 minutes from their UK distribution centre) and they said they were just going to replace the entire stick as they couldn't be sure replacing the Z axis alone would solve it and they didn't want to inconvenience him further. Took about a week.

I bought my VKB Gunfighter used so no idea what their support is like but it's absolutely solid as well.

If you're looking at the high end I'd say just go with whichever brand has the grips you like. Virpil probably has the edge if your main thing is space sims with the Alpha Prime and I'd give the edge to VKB and their MCG Ultimate if you play a lot of in atmosphere stuff.
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Definitely leaning towards the virpil stuff and narrowly missed out on a huge bundle on Ebay today. Customer service is a huge draw for me. I used to love aviation stuff back in the day but my focus is more on space stuff atm.I want to get the most of my gaming.
 
Vidar said:
Definitely leaning towards the virpil stuff and narrowly missed out on a huge bundle on Ebay today. Customer service is a huge draw for me. I used to love aviation stuff back in the day but my focus is more on space stuff atm.I want to get the most of my gaming.
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I saw that bundle. It went for a decent amount given Virpil's Black Friday sale last year was 5% off your order for each item you bought (big stuff like grips, bases, throttles, etc.) but it sounds like you're not looking to wait until that rolls around again.

So far they've been great to deal with. Very fast responses to emails (about 30 minutes when my mate was dealing with them) too. I'd have no problem recommending them as a company and their products are very nice.
 
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Tediore said:
I saw that bundle. It went for a decent amount given Virpil's Black Friday sale last year was 5% off your order for each item you bought (big stuff like grips, bases, throttles, etc.) but it sounds like you're not looking to wait until that rolls around again.

So far they've been great to deal with. Very fast responses to emails (about 30 minutes when my mate was dealing with them) too. I'd have no problem recommending them as a company and their products are very nice.
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To be honest,I had a lot of back and forth with the guy selling the bundle and would have gotten it as I could have shifted what I didn't need. This stuff doesn't seem to hang about from what I can tell. But, I knew my limit and stuck to it. I'm keen, not insane lol
 
I always go for the good old cheap and cheerful Thrustmaster T-Flight X.

I'm also concerned about the reliability of the more expensive HOTASs. At least if this one goes belly up, a replacement is as cheap as chips.

Not many buttons, but you can define and use 'Shift' buttons to increase the amount of buttons available, plus use Voice Attack too.

For both Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen, HCS Voice Packs are available too. I have the great British actor Brian Blessed as my ship's computer lmfao. Every now and then he shouts out, 'Braben's aliiiiiiiive!' and the Flash Gordon film theme tune by Queen and he says something like, 'Ooh! Queen! I like Queen!' :cry:

I haven't played Elite Dangerous for quite a while, I've been waiting for my motion simulator to arrive, hopefully it's going to get delivered in April or May. Here's the latest prototype in action:

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YAW3 3rd prototype

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It's been a LONG wait since backing their Kickstarter campaign a couple of years ago, thanks to COVID-19, lockdowns, the war in Ukraine and the war in Gaza, but these guys don't give up.

The war in Ukraine was probably the biggest problem because they were originally planning on getting most of their raw materials from Russia for peanuts, but sanctions knocked that idea on the head. :(
 
thesnowdog1971 said:
I always go for the good old cheap and cheerful Thrustmaster T-Flight X.

I'm also concerned about the reliability of the more expensive HOTASs. At least if this one goes belly up, a replacement is as cheap as chips.

Not many buttons, but you can define and use 'Shift' buttons to increase the amount of buttons available, plus use Voice Attack too.

For both Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen, HCS Voice Packs are available too. I have the great British actor Brian Blessed as my ship's computer lmfao. Every now and then he shouts out, 'Braben's aliiiiiiiive!' and the Flash Gordon film theme tune by Queen and he says something like, 'Ooh! Queen! I like Queen!' :cry:

I haven't played Elite Dangerous for quite a while, I've been waiting for my motion simulator to arrive, hopefully it's going to get delivered in April or May. Here's the latest prototype in action:

youtu.be

YAW3 3rd prototype

youtu.be youtu.be

It's been a LONG wait since backing their Kickstarter campaign a couple of years ago, thanks to COVID-19, lockdowns, the war in Ukraine and the war in Gaza, but these guys don't give up.

The war in Ukraine was probably the biggest problem because they were originally planning on getting most of their raw materials from Russia for peanuts, but sanctions knocked that idea on the head. :(
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You can use vjoy & joystick gremlin to create a virtual device and then map combinations of buttons and actions to act as shift keys for games and sticks that don't support that already.

I have an old xbox 360 remote set up for the TEDAC in the AH-64D in DCS and I use the triggers that are actually axis as buttons.
 
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