How can I spy on 2 gits who are on my net?

FatRakoon

FatRakoon

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I got 2 gits on my LAN. I have not enabled any security and I can happily do that for sure, but Im not going to at this time.

I want instead to somehow have access to their PCs to really get them back

They have deliberately somehow managed to wipe my PCs and yes this is with WAP / WEP

mcwizard-PC 192.168.1.65 00:19:7E:6C:29:26

Owner-PC 192.168.1.67 00:19:D2:65:E7:B8

What can I do?
 
Secure your network and put it down to experience.

What they have done is in breach of the computer misuse act as would be what you propose to do, so best to stop while they are the only guilty ones.
 
Teal said:
Secure your network and put it down to experience.

What they have done is in breach of the computer misuse act as would be what you propose to do, so best to stop while they are the only guilty ones.
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NOT AN OPTION.

They have doen this before, the Police dont care they they keep wiping my files, they really dont give a stuff at all.

Security is NOT any use either as I have bneen using WEP for the last few months and they have somehow managed to get past that with very little effort and WPA Preshared key posed absolutely no problems at all for them it seems???




1337z0r said:
Flood there pc's with the dos chat thing over your lan ;).
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Im listening...


Hang on, are you on about the built-in thingy in the CMD Prompt... NET SEND or whatever???

I have never managed to get this thing to work properly?

I have even tried doing it through both the CMD Line and the Window box, but never once managed it...

Whats its syntax?

Can you give me an example please that should work???
 
Setup WPA and not WEP. Don't use a single one word WPA 'password' either. Use a whole sentence including spaces. Just lock them out.
 
isnt WEP rather rubbish and not really to be bothered with? surely WPA with a decent long random passphrase with maybe MAC address filtering should do?

i assume they're doing this wirelessly, is there any reason for you to need wireless or can you turn off the radio?
 
WEP is useless - takes minutes to crack.

WPA can't be cracked without brute force - with a long enough, complex enough key, this takes many years.
 
If they have got in, are you be sure they haven't installed software to log anything you do. i.e. setting a password. If it's not a total nightmare I would do a clean install and change passwords including installing antivirus/spyware software before connecting to the internet and don't forget windows updates.

Oh by the way change your desktop background it's soooo high street pc. ;) Only joking. :)
 
Yes, just forget trying to do anything and forget using WEP. As already mentioned, use WPA or WPA2 as it's far more secure. If your router/AP does not support WPA then buy a new one.

There's only one excuse to be using WEP these days and that's for older kit that doesn't support WPA - the only recent device I can think of that that'd apply to is the Nintendo DS.
 
firewallblocked said:
If they have got in, are you be sure they haven't installed software to log anything you do. i.e. setting a password. If it's not a total nightmare I would do a clean install and change passwords including installing antivirus/spyware software before connecting to the internet and don't forget windows updates.

Oh by the way change your desktop background it's soooo high street pc. ;) Only joking. :)
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Well, to be honest, *** last couple of days, I have installed Vista, thats all but killed my partitions on my main PC so all day yesterday its been messed up. As of this morning, that PC is now back on XP ( Thank the lord for an OS that actually works ).

So, while its a fresh install, its also been unsecured for a fair bit of time too!

But the security is in the router, not the PC.

I need to check all the routers settings thoroughly again I think.
 
firewallblocked said:
Make sure your router password isn't the default one. :)
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OMFG!!!!

How stupid am I?

Yes, it is....

Thanks for that.

( Goes off mumbling like a ******* )

I just had a play with my Laptop on the router... While I was unable to change anything, I was fully able to see what settings it had...

...EVEN MY WEP KEYS / Passphrase ETC... All in plain sight!!!!

Oh my god, how dumb am I?

Thanks mate... Thanks a lot.

Pint on its way.

Oh, ps... Appropriate username there mate!!!
 
It's a good job the subject has changed from ways to get back at these individuals - this forum isn't here to help you, or anyone else, break the law. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Duke said:
Enable MAC filtering and just allow the devices you want to let in.
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Not terribly useful once the encryption's gone - it's comparatively trivial to spoof a MAC address.
 
If they are using it to surf the web ;)

http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/07/27/1456253.shtml?tid=133

and more of that sort of thing here

http://backslash.slashdot.org/backslash/06/07/28/187219.shtml

... turns all image requests upside down.

Harmless and fun.

You could also name files 'reallyhot_XXX.jpeg" but actually, goatse or the ever wonderful tubgirl. When you hear cries of alarm, followed by vomiting from a neighbour.. then you know without mind bleach you have triumphed.

For my self, at this stage I would have just gone wired. Wireless is supposed to be about convenience.
 
tolien said:
Not terribly useful once the encryption's gone - it's comparatively trivial to spoof a MAC address.
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Ok. Out of interest, if you spoof a MAC address, will it conflict on the network with the 'original' MAC?
 
Duke said:
Ok. Out of interest, if you spoof a MAC address, will it conflict on the network with the 'original' MAC?
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There would be a conflict, but you'd still have access. The machine whose MAC you're spoofing isn't going to be connected forever either.
 
FatRakoon said:
They have doen this before, the Police dont care they they keep wiping my files, they really dont give a stuff at all.
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is this april 1st? some sort of windup? :confused:

i just can't believe what i'm reading here. :(

ok accessing your network via unecrypted wireless is one thing. but your machines are in such a state, they're actually letting people delete files over the network? the mind boggles, it really does.... :eek: :D
 
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