How can we end political correctness?

[Efour]

race and class war, that would get it back into balance for the next 50 years :O

OR

some kind of cataclysmic natural world disaster, and people wouldn't have the time to be PC to each other whilst we rip each other apart for the scraps of whats left.

or! lol

Socialist revolution on a global scale, then everyone would be a comrade not a (insert racist jargon here)

 

[barnettgs]

How can we stop it and bring back common sense into our lives?

Rip up human rights law and throw them out of UK. IMO

 

[Inquisitor]

I don't think that the problem is anywhere near as big as it's made out to be in the media. Any isolated incident is seized upon as an example of 'political correctness gone mad' and used to attack immigration policy, or education, or the health service, or the judicary, or a myriad of other things. I'm not saying that there's nothing to criticise, but that jumping on isolated examples of idiocy and using them as straw men is not the way to do it.

Witness the hype about banning Christmas that we see every year throughout November and December. It's brought up every single year as an example of political correctness gone awry, and it ALWAYS turns out to be massively brown out of proportion, or in some cases utterly false. It sells papers though, so hey, let's keep on printing it.

My favourite example is from last year or so, when a city decided to have a non-traditional bonfire night celebration which, if I remember correctly, had a Chinese dragon or some such. This was quickly jumped upon by the usual suspects and trumpeted as an example of political correctness, despite the fact that it was clearly a one-off event and that the same city had put on traditional (and spectacular) bonfire night celebrations in the past. When it comes to the stage where we're afraid that any deviation from 'Britishness' is insidious political correctness, I think that we have a problem.

Well said.

 

[Cybermyk]

Create a British identity, everybody's invited but we have rules. English, Welsh, Celtic and Gailic are the only languages spoken here. Crime will not be tolerated. Religion is not an excuse.

 

[Sleepy]

Rip up human rights law and throw them out of UK. IMO

The Human Rights Act incorperates the Articles of the European Convention of Human Rights which was in turn partly based on the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights which was in turn partly based upon the US Bill of Rights which was in turn strongly influenced by the Bill of Rights 1689, which is still law in this country.

So by decrying the Human rights Act you are ultimately decrying an act of parliament that is fundamental to the modern British system of government.

Doesn't sound like the act of a true patriot to me.

 

[barnettgs]

The Human Rights Act incorperates the Articles of the European Convention of Human Rights which was in turn partly based on the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights which was in turn partly based upon the US Bill of Rights which was in turn strongly influenced by the Bill of Rights 1689, which is still law in this country.

So by decrying the Human rights Act you are ultimately decrying an act of parliament that is fundamental to the modern British system of government.

Doesn't sound like the act of a true patriot to me.

Well, it was abused too much as it worked in the favour of criminals rather than the victims. Also Human Rights Act is where Political Correctness comes from.

 

[Skyfire]

Perma bann it.
PC is banned in my house and in my world, a spade is a spade. Give the mods guidlines on deleting and banning PC BS.
A poof is a poof a **** is a **** and i am a white gypo, Big ******* deal.

P*ki is an offensive slang term, I am white and would have no qualm beating the hell out of you for calling some poor kid that. Scum

 

[Van Hellseek]

Create a British identity

there is already a british identity. it's just a shame people are growing increasingly afraid to show it.

 

[4T5]

P*ki is an offencive slang term, I am white and would have no qualm beating the hell out of you for calling some poor kid that. Scum

This is a personal attack. If you would like to try then email me for my addy.

O and by the way numb nuts my best mate is a **** & a practising Muslim, he visits me daily sometimes twice a day. He calls me Gypo i call him ****, we laugh about it as it is pathetic PC idiots like you that take offence not real people.

 

[fatiain]

This is a personal attack. If you would like to try then email me for my addy.

O and by the way numb nuts my best mate is a **** & a practising Muslim, he visits me daily sometimes twice a day. He calls me Gypo i call him ****, we laugh about it as it is pathetic PC idiots like you that take offence not real people.

He's a brave man, eh? Careful Malc, his keyboard might dent you in the knee.

 

[Angilion]

Care to elaborate?

There was a hierarchy of perceived fault based on groups, usually biological. Being "white" put you down the list. Being male put you right down the list. Unless you could offset it by being part of a group higher up the list, e.g. being handicapped(*), you were presumed wrong. It was, for example, explicitly stated in the sexual harassment workshops (the place was big on workshops) that a man was presumed guilty if accused by a woman and that he would not have any way to defend himself from the charge.

*I refuse to use the currently fashionable term "disabled" to refer to a person, because I know what it means: broken beyond repair, completely useless. Only a dead person is disabled, and even that's debateable since their corpse can be useful.

 

[Arcade Fire]

Create a British identity, everybody's invited but we have rules. English, Welsh, Celtic and Gailic are the only languages spoken here. Crime will not be tolerated. Religion is not an excuse.

Your points about not tolerating crime and not being able to use religion as an excuse are good. However, before you go off on one about languages, stop and think a little.

As well as accepting a lot of immigrants, Britain also has a lot of emigration. Brits go to live in France, Spain and Germany as well as a host of other places. Would you like to make it illegal for them to speak English when they go over there?

In any case, what you're proposing doesn't seem to tackle the problem of 'political correctness' that the first post refers to. If you wanted to reduce racial tensions or cut down the incidence of home-grown extremism then maybe, in the long-term, something like what you're proposing is the way to go. I have no idea how it would help cut political correctness, though.

 

[Spie]

P*ki is an offensive slang term, I am white and would have no qualm beating the hell out of you for calling some poor kid that. Scum

Personal attacks will NOT be tolerated here. Your account has been suspended for 3 days.

 

[4T5]

I like a man that is true to himself. Thanks Boss

 

[Efour]

he visits me daily sometimes twice a day. .

lol what?!

oh another fine thread just all go vote BNP or do some canvasing for them spread the message on the streets not on the internets.

 

[B&W]

This is a personal attack. If you would like to try then email me for my addy.

O and by the way numb nuts my best mate is a **** & a practising Muslim, he visits me daily sometimes twice a day. He calls me Gypo i call him ****, we laugh about it as it is pathetic PC idiots like you that take offence not real people.

That's because your his m8.

If a random white guy shouted out "oi you dirty ****" to an Asian guy on the street it would be racist just like if he shouted out "dirty ******" or if somebody called the white guy "a dirty white *******"

 

[4T5]

lol what?!

You are easily confused. I shall explain in simple terms. He is my mate a good mate and when he passes and has time spare he drops in to shoot the breeze. This can be more than once, i.e. Twice.


B&W.
I did not say Dirty anything. I have said before that my mate wants the plate PAK1 for his car, i think that says it all.

 

[D.P.]

**** is a racist term, full stop. It is also incorrect. Someone from Pakistan is a reffered to as a Pakistani in English. Someone form india is reffered to as Indian. Quite simple isn't it.

Perhaps the best way to solve the exccessive PC problem is attempt to educate those lacking in knowledge of what equates to things like racism.
The term **** has been deemed racist for over 50 years now. if some people are too slow to learn that simple fact then PC will always be in the news.

 

[Dolph]

The big thing that needs addressing is the difference between Political correctness and simple common courtesy. Claiming you don't pander to political correctness is not carte blanche to ignore common courtesy or claim you have a right to say whatever the hell you like and people have no right to be offended by it.

We do certainly need restrictions on "PC gone Mad", although as Arcade Fire pointed out, it's nearly always the media that make a storm in a teacup where that's concerned, but that doesn't mean we have to forget courtesy and some consideration for the feelings of others when we speak.

 

[badgermonkey]

**** is a racist term, full stop.

It's only racist if it's intended or taken as racist. Calling a welsh person sheep ******* (not sure on whether the word is allowed ) is technically racist, but I don't know any welsh person, myself included, who actually take it offensively. Even when used as an offensive term, we at least keep a sense of humour about ourselves, instead of labeling every man and his dog as racist for saying anything.