how could someone do this?

Davey_Pitch · 21 Feb 2006 at 12:54

Melm0 said:
Agreed with one exception - the person who burnt that dog to death

I don't think I'd even want them burnt to death. Beaten severely with a blunt object maybe, but not burnt to death.

Murf · 21 Feb 2006 at 12:58

Davey_Pitch said:
I don't think I'd even want them burnt to death. Beaten severely with a blunt object maybe, but not burnt to death.

It just makes us as bad as them. Having a fight fire with fire attitude can lead to a very serious situation.

Punish them within the constraints of the law. What I do think though is laws regarding cruelty, ie - abuse of animals, kids, GBH, rape etc should carry much heavier custodial sentences.

Davey_Pitch · 21 Feb 2006 at 13:00

Murf said:
It just makes us as bad as them. Having a fight fire with fire attitude can lead to a very serious situation.

Punish them within the constraints of the law. What I do think though is laws regarding cruelty, ie - abuse of animals, kids, GBH, rape etc should carry much heavier custodial sentences.

If the laws for cruelty to animals were stronger then I would certainly agree there's no need to wish bad thoughts on them. As it stands, the sentence they get for crimes like this are a joke, it's part of where my strong feelings come from. If they were punished adequately for their crimes I'd be happy.

Melm0 · 21 Feb 2006 at 13:00

What i was trying to say is that if someone thinks they can treat a living thing like that, they deserve the same treatment. It's only fair. If you can't take what you give, don't give it.

LoadsaMoney · 21 Feb 2006 at 13:14

How could someone do that, because its normal this day and age.

Melm0 · 21 Feb 2006 at 13:22

LoadsaMoney said:
How could someone do that, because its normal this day and age.

Point is mindless cruelty SHOULDN'T be normal

elroberto · 21 Feb 2006 at 13:38

Davey_Pitch said:
The punishment they *should* get? 5 minutes alone in a room with the dog's owner. That should do it.

As a dog owner myself I totally agree. My dog has never done harm to anyone and if anybody were to inflict this sort of suffering to him I shudder to think what I might do to them.

Whappers · 21 Feb 2006 at 14:17

I really can't believe someone could actually live with themselves knowing that they had done something like this. Truely shocking!

Murf · 21 Feb 2006 at 14:40

Davey_Pitch said:
If the laws for cruelty to animals were stronger then I would certainly agree there's no need to wish bad thoughts on them. As it stands, the sentence they get for crimes like this are a joke, it's part of where my strong feelings come from. If they were punished adequately for their crimes I'd be happy.

Then we basically agree? Tougher, custodial sentences for acts of cruelty.

_Jimlad_ · 21 Feb 2006 at 14:43

sick buggers, just read the bbc page...

Mickey_D · 21 Feb 2006 at 14:44

Someone does something like that to one of my dogs......

I have friends on the Indian Reservation. They'd NEVER find the body. :mad:

Priest · 21 Feb 2006 at 14:53

Murf said:
There's plenty of human torture going on daily as well, it's not just animals like this one being treated that way.

The fact of the matter is nothing should be treated like that.

I agree wholeheartedly mate, but I think what's got most people upset & angry about this case is because it's a defenceless animal.

As you said, human torture goes on daily, but because of the news coverage of events over the past few years a lot of people have become desensitised to it all. That doesn't make it any less wrong, if that makes sense, but does explain some people's reaction to things like this.

Von Smallhausen · 21 Feb 2006 at 16:05

I cannot abide cruelty to animals and what gets me even more is that the maximun penalty for such acts in 6 months !!

Is the unbearable suffering to the dog punishable by 6 months a just punishment ? How about 5 years for starters ? The fact they muzzled the dog to stop it barking makes it even more despicable.

While I can't really condone people taking the law into their own hands, I can't feel pity for the scum responsible should they get a good shoeing !

Aliboy · 21 Feb 2006 at 16:09

I can't bring myself to read that story

zain · 21 Feb 2006 at 16:55

Another act of cruelty against animals. Cruetly to animals is wrong, they are innocent creatures.

Nix · 21 Feb 2006 at 17:22

Davey_Pitch said:
The punishment they'll get? Likely 6 months in prison and a fine of some kind.

The punishment they *should* get? 5 minutes alone in a room with the dog's owner. That should do it.

I've got a nasty feeling that these people may have been the owner - I could be completely wrong though.

D4VE · 21 Feb 2006 at 17:25

So sick.

semi-pro waster · 21 Feb 2006 at 17:58

It is a disgusting story, I tend to get much more worked up about cruelty to animals than I do if it is done to people. It is tragic when someone is tortured but to me it always seems worse to do it to an animal because they almost certainly can't or won't fight back and can't articulate their distress in the same way.

I don't believe in vigilante justice and I never have but cruelty to animals comes pretty close to making me believe it worthwhile.

LoadsaMoney · 21 Feb 2006 at 18:40

Melm0 said:
Point is mindless cruelty SHOULDN'T be normal

I know, but it is, and its going to get a lot worse than this, if the Govt don't get a grip on crime, and stop being a joke by dishing out holidays etc... to crims, then this country is going to be out of control.

Moeks · 22 Feb 2006 at 00:44

LoadsaMoney said:
I know, but it is, and its going to get a lot worse than this, if the Govt don't get a grip on crime, and stop being a joke by dishing out holidays etc... to crims, then this country is going to be out of control.

I think so too, however it does annoy me how much of an uproar animal cruelty causes in this country yet violence against ones own passes seemingly unnoticed. It was a plain horrible thing to do to the poor dog but it was 'just' a dog. I am not an animal lover though, I have never and probably never will understand the relationship and feelings many animal lovers seem to have for their animals. Animals are there to be either be eaten or to work as far as I'm concerned ...but I would never condone such wicked cruelty towards any living thing.

I can't say as I am surprised or even particularly shocked by it, human beings can be cruel beyond most peoples comprehension when they think they can get away with it.