How do people afford nice cars?

:rolleyes: Credit..

My mate earns 11K PA and bought a brand new 206 for something like £10K on credit a few years ago... He's still paying it off now. He is planning to buy a £15K Lotus Elise on credit this/ next year and sell his 206 for about £4-5K!! :o

He wouldn't be able to manage it on his own but I think mummy and daddy help him out with bills and stuff when he needs it :rolleyes:
 
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I'm quite fortunate as I just saved up until I had enough money to buy both of my cars outright.

Had I bought them on credit though, I would be paying around £850 per month over 4 years and it would cost me £5000 in interest charges. Instead of paying all that interest I just put that money that I would be paying into my savings account and in 4 years time I'll have £40k in savings plus whatever my current cars are worth.

I won't however be buying a £60k car when that time comes, I'm looking to get a bigger place next year when my mortgage deal runs out so that'll probably consume all of my money :(
 
[TW]Fox said:
Work hard at school then get a job generally leads to high short term gain but generally lower long term gain.

by school i meant inc uni ect, and thats not true i left school at 16 did orite for my self ;)
 
kkelly said:
I just bought a flat here for £73000 and i thought i was doing good! but $18k il have 4 please :(

Johnny69 said:
I don't appear to like you any more Mickey. ;)



To all that are :eek: over the purchase price of my house, don't forget what it looked like when I bought it....

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We have since replaced :
The septic tank (self contained sewer system)
ALL wiring
ALL plumbing
ALL flooring
ALL drywall on interior walls
ALL lighting fixtures and wall sockets

we have also done :
Brought in 5 cubic yards of black dirt to try and level the yard.
Completely wore out one riding lawn mower and almost knackered a second clearing the yard.
Chopped down, chopped up, hauled away/burned at least 30 trees.
Chopped down, chopped up, and burned at least 30 cubic yards of underbrush growth.
Built and installed a porch and patio.
Reinforced the roof in the garage.
Moved and wired the storage shed.
Installed all the phone lines.
Installed the sattelite TV system.
Hauled in 2 cubic yards of gravel to try and bring the driveway above the water table.
Insulated two exterior walls, working on the third. Fourth I will hopefully get to before winter.

Things still to be done :
Finish the siding.
Replace all original windows with vinil double paned energy efficient ones ($$$$$$$$$$$$$)
Install and hook up the outdoor woodburning stove.
Tear down and replace the garage.
Haul in and hook up the other house as an addition.


So, if you include all the hours of labour we've put into it and have paid "proffessionals" to do it, we'd most likely be WELL above our home's value right now. And there's still a LOT to do.

It all depends on your skills and abilities. I grew up in a house that was barely above (sometimes not) poverty level. If something needed repaired, we HAD to do it ourselves as there was no way in hell we could afford to pay someone to do it. So we learned. Quite often the hard way. But it taught me some valuable lessons in carpentry, plumbing, electrical, gardening, automotive repair, small engine repair, etc, etc, etc. And I'm still learning. 5 years ago what I knew about moving a house could have been explained in two words : diddly squat. I'm now trying it myself. I'll probably make twice as much effort at it than someone who knows what they're doing, but it'll have cost me some hours of my time and a little petrol in my truck. Not the $25,000 I've been quoted for a "proffessional" to do it for me!! :D



I think it all comes down to what you consider more important to you - your time or your money. For some they equal each other. For me, I had the time, I didn't have the money. So I did a lot myself and saved a bundle. Others if they had spent the amount of time I have on the house probably could have paid for a nice house with the what they would have made in that time. And actually done a lot less work.
 
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Mickey_D said:
Chopped down, chopped up, hauled away/burned at least 30 trees.

You didnt chop them out of what looks to be your very own forrest behind your house did you? :(
I would live my own forrest like that :D

Do we get an after photo now? :)
 
Zip said:
You didnt chop them out of what looks to be your very own forrest behind your house did you? :(
I would live my own forrest like that :D

Do we get an after photo now? :)

i think he saind he's never set foot on 9/10's of his land, probably some good forests left in there.
 
dougguk said:
Im on £22k and pay about 600 out a month for bills and rent and cant seem to save anything!!
Can't be bothered to work the tax out but on £22k you should be bringing in at least double your 600 quid monthly outgoings, aren't you? Where's the rest of it going?

As for myself, I don't "afford" a nice car, it belongs to the company :p Seriously though, although I could easily afford to buy and run a £20k+ car, I'd never do it if it were my own money and would instead go the used route.

What really staggers me is the number of people on here who are apparently able to spend thousands of pounds on their cars on a regular basis without getting shot by their other halves! :D
 
Zip said:
You didnt chop them out of what looks to be your very own forrest behind your house did you? :(
I would live my own forrest like that :D

Do we get an after photo now? :)


Actually all I chopped down were the ones that if the wind blew them over they'd hit my house.

I should really get an updated picture of my house. But not right now. we've both been working a hell of a lot of hours and haven't really had the time to maintain the yard, so it looks like crap right now......
 
Note I have not read the whole thread

Instead of the finance option I drove an average car while I saved up for a nice car.

No kids and cheap rent leaves me with enough disposable income to run a decent car.
 
R124/LA420 said:
I could'nt have put it better myself, my £36k 7 Series cost me just over £5k! :)

Sadly, its as expensive to run as it was when it was new. :(
thats the way its done, buy the older version, its just as good and is cheaper
 
Also, a lot of people will be renting, paying rent each month allows for quite abit of savings. Whereas people paying off a morgage on a house or some kind of property will have less cash to spend, but after the 5, 10 or even more paying off the morgage, you've got a property, worth a lot of money, so its a long term investment, as opposed to a short term investment (renting).

Mike
 
I've had this problem for years. Ill keep is as short as possible, but my father earns a nice salary as a writer/prof/speaker and people always take the mick when I say I paid for my 10k car and my 3k home cinema, and my 2k PC as they think 'daddy' pays for it.

The truth would be when I was 16 I went out and got a a weekend job straight away, and then a couple of night here and there, 3 years of put no tax heaven. I worked every day in the summer holiday and christmas while all the other people where spending there £40 a week pocket money on drinking and having 'fun'

After three years I had saved 10k too travel America, and in the end it never happend. So I bought a Integra Type R a few days after my 19th. A lovely insurance bill on top everyone though that either daddy had bought the car or I had some crazy credit. People still don't want too belive it was forsight and hardwork over thoose three years.

So now I try and save a couple of thousand every couple of year and sell the car before a dip in value occurs, this way I get too have a £9k while only earning £12k a year. But again I have put a nice save as you earn with the compnay which will be work my years salary ever three years, with £8k coming out in 18 months. Which this time I hope will be for the American adventure.

So now all the people with their £15k cars try and wind me up, and like others say mines mine.
 
how do people afford nice cars ?

get a girlfriend :D

seriously, living together can double your take home pay, but your actual cost of living only increases slightly

My salary is only 14k. which isnt a lot. but i have lots of nice things in life because my partner earns the same.

we pay £400/ month morgage, £300/month childcare and then maybe another £200 in bills. Thats my total take home pay after tax. my partner earns another £900/month. Of that only about £200 or so goes on food, the other £700 / month we do with as we please.

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other secret to having lots of money, get a girlfriend but dont have kids. My aunt and uncle were rolling in it. Both civil servants but no kids. imagine what it would be like to have a mortgage from 10 years ago (ie 80 grand for a 4 bed semi) but 44k income with no childcare / child stuff to pay for. They were seriously rolling in it till they got my 2 cousins.
 
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If I wanted to tomorrow, I could walk into a BMW dealership and buy a 2nd hand M3 cabrio (or something for a similar price, but I think thats what I would get). Plus I would probably get affordable monthly payments by buying the car on a PCP and having a balloon payment at the end of the term. A lot of people do this and to be honest, it is not worth it. They will also most likely give their car back at the end of the term as they would not have the £??k to pay off so they owned the car.

I could probably borrow £15k from the bank and add a bit of my own money to go and buy something decent. I choose not too though, because as much as I am a petrolhead, I enjoy the life I am living by not having to sacrifice a large portion of my salary on the running costs of a car. I was very close to taking a loan and buying something better than my clio (before I got my clio) but I thought long and hard about it and I decided that its just not worth it. My car, including insurance, tax, petrol costs me about 15% of my salary every monthm which is basically not much at all and I have a great laugh with it. Its pretty quick, looks ok, is comfortable and I can hoon it round corners v fast :D

I admit that I do get a little jealous when I see similar aged people (who I know are earning a lot less than me) driving round in much better cars. Then I think to myself "If I had a car like that, I wouldnt have my new PC, my mountain bike, my DVDs, my nights out, my holidays, my snowboard gear, be able to go on a date and have to worry about the bill, etc".

It comes down to how much you want a nice car. I know people who have bought a car that costs more than 100% of what they earn annually, and to me that is just pointless. I love cars, but (I am sad to say it) not THAT much.
 
i bought my car cash initially. now its on finance, as the money from the finance bought a rental property. The property covers all of its costs AND the finance on the car, as well as still turning in a small profit each month.

Assuming i havent changed the finance structure, then in 5 years the car will be paid off and the property will be making a good profit as no car to finance to pay. :)

Debt is very good/useful IMO, if you structure/manage it right. i am always suprised by some of the debt is bad attitudes on here - its a tool and works as well as you make it. :)
 
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