Soldato
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How do people 'not work'?
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Couldn't afford to upgrade my pc on JSA.
No Skyrim for me broski.
E6600 was chugging along trying to run it on good settings.
your one of these people who don't know all the right information about people life's you jump on the band wagon with false information it only what you get told or read about specially from mr cameron and co
what you don't think about is people might off worked paid for their 50inch plasma tv and then later on get made redundant due to no fault of their own and then unable to find work or unable to work due to ill health etc. doe's this make them in the same League as a benefit Scrounger. i don't think so!
it makes me laugh about people like you that make statments as you do
if you are working your time might come soon when you might have to claim benefits in your life time.
yes i grant you some of your statement their are some people who have never worked or want to in there life time who claim, but it doe's not make others you have mentioned in the same Category as these people
i worked since i left school in 1979 and worked up to 3ys ago (31yrs) had to stop to due ill health problems but yeah i paid for my tv,sky and holidays i think i have earned it.
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I ask myself this often. I have family that have been unemployed for years. I guess people just get by and manage then find no need to move on. I'm not sure I could. I'd have to do something.
^ Repeating it doesn't make it any more correct the second time
hopefully it might make you think abit more about the post the 2nd time
It's not free, as it is deducted from your Disability Living Allowance, which isn't that much by itself. Even when you are granted the highest levels it is not a lot of money.
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To be honest, I could happily quit working and just spend all day playing video games and watching movies. Pity it's just not possible to get by doing so on JSA or even DLA (which I could easily wrangle if I wanted to).
I like to surround myself with too much new crap. No way the bills could be paid if I wasn't making a full wage.
2 cases to present to the panel
Case 1: A 50 yr old woman, who has been unable to work for the last 20+ years due to a degenerative disease which grinds her bones way - she has lost about 6 inches off her height - causing acute pain in her joints which can leave her immobilized for days at a time. She used to work and up until her 2nd child was 6yrs old.
She has never claimed off the sick, as (in her own words) "There are people out there worse off then me. At least I can still walk. Also I don't want to take the **** out of the system" despite the fact that both her grown up children, friends and family members have all told her over the years that she is defiantly entitled to more.
Last year she was diagnosed with cancer of the blood (I forget the name) so she has to take chemotherapy tablets.
She gets £185 (approx) every 2 weeks, rent and council tax are also paid, but that's it. She soon to lose £14 out of her money (every 2 weeks) as the house she lives in with her daughter has a spare room - which is used 1-2 nights a week by her grandchild - and the government deem that an unnecessary extra space and there is also the possibility that the council tax benefit will be stopped or reduced also (due to council cuts in the local council).
Now she is also having to go to "Back to work" interviews with the benefits people, to try and assess if she can work. She her self has said that she would love to work, but with her bone condition and the chemo tablets she can't always be relayed up on to attend a job position. The assessors have so far said that there is no way that they could put her in a job with all her conditions (which have all been verified and confirmed by doctors, consultants and medical professionals over the years) but they have to follow the process through
Oh and FYI, even though she has a form of cancer, the government do not deem her form and the treatment (tables) that she has to take as 'bad enough' to warrant her going 'on the sick' permanently - she is basically not ill enough, which I think is disgusting
Case 2: A 35 yr old woman. She has 5 children, aged from 2 - 15 years old. Each child has a different father. She lives in a 4 bedroom council house (paid for) with all her children, plus her current partner and his child (6 years). She is entitled to child benefit for each of her children which amounts to approx £100 every 2 weeks (£20 per child). She gets her own benefits as she is on the "sick" (apparently, but I don't know what is wrong with her) which has brought her other bonuses.
She takes all the kids to Florida every year, has sky and flat screen tv's. And she has never worked a day in her life. The house is a bomb site and the kids run riot
This is what is wrong with the benefits system. It is too easy to mess with it and the people who should actually be helped out, have to jump through 100's of hoops before they will even be listened too and when they are finally getting somewhere it take for ever to get anything resolved.
The benefits system is a joke, it should never be better to be on JSA or what ever then it is working...never
Case 1: A 50 yr old woman, who has been unable to work for the last 20+ years due to a degenerative disease which grinds her bones way - she has lost about 6 inches off her height - causing acute pain in her joints which can leave her immobilized for days at a time. She used to work and up until her 2nd child was 6yrs old.
She has never claimed off the sick, as (in her own words) "There are people out there worse off then me. At least I can still walk. Also I don't want to take the **** out of the system" despite the fact that both her grown up children, friends and family members have all told her over the years that she is defiantly entitled to more.
Last year she was diagnosed with cancer of the blood (I forget the name) so she has to take chemotherapy tablets.
She gets £185 (approx) every 2 weeks, rent and council tax are also paid, but that's it. She soon to lose £14 out of her money (every 2 weeks) as the house she lives in with her daughter has a spare room - which is used 1-2 nights a week by her grandchild - and the government deem that an unnecessary extra space and there is also the possibility that the council tax benefit will be stopped or reduced also (due to council cuts in the local council).
Now she is also having to go to "Back to work" interviews with the benefits people, to try and assess if she can work. She her self has said that she would love to work, but with her bone condition and the chemo tablets she can't always be relayed up on to attend a job position. The assessors have so far said that there is no way that they could put her in a job with all her conditions (which have all been verified and confirmed by doctors, consultants and medical professionals over the years) but they have to follow the process through
Oh and FYI, even though she has a form of cancer, the government do not deem her form and the treatment (tables) that she has to take as 'bad enough' to warrant her going 'on the sick' permanently - she is basically not ill enough, which I think is disgusting
Case 2: A 35 yr old woman. She has 5 children, aged from 2 - 15 years old. Each child has a different father. She lives in a 4 bedroom council house (paid for) with all her children, plus her current partner and his child (6 years). She is entitled to child benefit for each of her children which amounts to approx £100 every 2 weeks (£20 per child). She gets her own benefits as she is on the "sick" (apparently, but I don't know what is wrong with her) which has brought her other bonuses.
She takes all the kids to Florida every year, has sky and flat screen tv's. And she has never worked a day in her life. The house is a bomb site and the kids run riot
This is what is wrong with the benefits system. It is too easy to mess with it and the people who should actually be helped out, have to jump through 100's of hoops before they will even be listened too and when they are finally getting somewhere it take for ever to get anything resolved.
The benefits system is a joke, it should never be better to be on JSA or what ever then it is working...never
I'm more than aware that the system is ****ed, but what an awful story.
I full appreciate some peoples circumstances but I have had a lot of close family partners and friends slip away to benefits and council housing and I can confirm that my brothers partner who has recently left him and has been placed in a flat within three days as she had 'no where to live' with my 6 month old niece, it makes me feel sick how people can abuse there power and this aimed at toxic women.
Soldato
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I found on JSA,
Worst is sitting around, I played odd bit of PC games but mostly banned them (through choice of my own). Used to spend all/most of the time beasting guitar.
But people who sit around on JSA with no goal or aim... horrendous I couldn't imagine doing it.
Ive never been on JSA but I spent a lot of time at home after uni.
As above, I'd be so bored without a goal.