How do you deal with these nutters?

[D.P.]

I agree with this.


Not true. You can request you house to be blurred in google street view.

There is no legal basis for Google blurring people's houses though (same with people's faces) and there is no way to make Google comply with the request. Google offer the service as a curtsey only and are free to ignore your request.

The only things you can't photograph from public places are sensitive military installations and the like.



You have rights to privacy, e.g. it is illegal to use a telephoto lens and photograph someone getting it on in their bedroom. However it is not illegal to use photograph their house form public land.

 

[An Exception]

There is no legal basis for Google blurring people's houses though (same with people's faces) and there is no way to make Google comply with the request. Google offer the service as a curtsey only and are free to ignore your request.

Again the legality is irrelevant, and the fact that google (in this instance) has more respect for peoples privacy says it all.

ALWAYS KNOW IF THE JUICE IS WORTH THE SQUEEZE.

 

[Above&Beyond]

Just take the photos, don't cave in to these ranting morons or delete anything. Any trouble or harassment from the people in question then phone the police and let them deal with it.

 

[And]

They don't know who you are or why you're taking pictures and yet you're surprised at their response. They have no idea how powerful your camera/lens is and if you're peeking into the rooms or not. Show a little respect for others' property and ask first, it takes two minutes and people are generally quite accommodating when you speak to them. I'd have told you to f-off as well.

Why do you think the law is on the photographer's side?

Today I was taking some landscape and architecture shots in the county to get used to a 35mm, and when I saw a nice house I naturally started taking pictures of it, when all of a sudden some nutter was shouting out of a window not to take photos of the house, I personally just ignored him and then biked on to the next site.

My question is, how do you deal with these confrontational nutters (who apparently are not aware of Google street view), the law is clearly on the photographers side?

 

[D.P.]

Again the legality is irrelevant, and the fact that google (in this instance) has more respect for peoples privacy says it all.

ALWAYS KNOW IF THE JUICE IS WORTH THE SQUEEZE.

Legality has everything to do with what The__Malteser said.

Energize made the point that owning a property does not give one grounds to prevent anyone photographing it. The__Malteser claimed this was not true using google as evidence to the contrasty.

I merely pointed out that Google's actions have no legal basis, I've no claimed that either action is right or wrong, thus Google' actions do not in anyway counter Energizer's claims.



Secondly, you seem to be defending the homeowner and while blindly ignoring the intrusion of the photographer's rights not to be verbally abused and to go about their business within the confines of the law.

S

 

[D.P.]

They don't know who you are or why you're taking pictures and yet you're surprised at their response. They have no idea how powerful your camera/lens is and if you're peeking into the rooms or not. Show a little respect for others' property and ask first, it takes two minutes and people are generally quite accommodating when you speak to them. I'd have told you to f-off as well.

Why do you think the law is on the photographer's side?

The law is on the photographer's side because all forms of photography would be illegal if you couldn't take photos in public places. Plus it would extend to other art forms as well, so it would make water color paintings illegal.

Luckily we live in a world where a tourist can take a photo of St Pauls Cathedral including the surrounding properties and people and throw it on facebook without asking every property owner and every passerby for permission.

 

[D.P.]

Just take the photos, don't cave in to these ranting morons or delete anything. Any trouble or harassment from the people in question then phone the police and let them deal with it.

I'm quite worried at the number of photographers that would happily delete their photos and put up with illegal harassment that constraints their freedom.

Now there is no need to purposely annoy someone or aggravate them further in a confrontational manner but caving in and accepting the abuse is where I draw the line.

If I sat on a park bench reading a book and some nutter starts shouting at me to stop because it annoys them then I am not going to make the situation worse and be aggressive to them but I have my rights to enjoy my book on a public bench. Letting bullies get away with these kinds of things only makes things worse in the long run.

 

[SC0TTRS]

Think the police would be interested in you taking photo's of my house with my kids in the window!.

 

[D.P.]

Think the police would be interested in you taking photo's of my house with my kids in the window!.

I don't think they will actually*, unless you are doing something inappropriate with your kids in which case they might want the photos as evidence.

* Assuming the photographer is taking a photo of the house and not the people inside.

 

[SC0TTRS]

I don't think they will actually*, unless you are doing something inappropriate with your kids in which case they might want the photos as evidence.

* Assuming the photographer is taking a photo of the house and not the people inside.

Yes, the police wouldn't be interested in a total strange stood outside random house with a camera full with images of kids...

 

[Raymond Lin]

Yes, the police wouldn't be interested in a total strange stood outside random house with a camera full with images of kids...

Out of context or what.

There is a difference having photographs of children under duress in compromising positions that comes under the various legislation of the law.

vs

Photos of a wide shot from the street of a house where there are people inside the building.

If there was something happening in those photos that could cause the photographer to get in trouble, i am sure the adult inside the house will be in bigger trouble.

 

[Energize]

They don't know who you are or why you're taking pictures and yet you're surprised at their response. They have no idea how powerful your camera/lens is and if you're peeking into the rooms or not. Show a little respect for others' property and ask first, it takes two minutes and people are generally quite accommodating when you speak to them. I'd have told you to f-off as well.

You can't be serious, I'd be forever knocking on doors of every bit of property or building I photograph. Can you honestly imagine the Google street view vans stopping at everyone's property?

 

[D.P.]

Yes, the police wouldn't be interested in a total strange stood outside random house with a camera full with images of kids...

Ahh, but you didn't say photos of your kids. You said photos of your house with kids in the window.

Make up your mind what you mean.

 

[ethan]

This. I wouldn't be happy to see anyone taking photographs of my home. It is plain rude to continue doing something after you have been asked stop. You don't need a legal basis for manners.

It's quite normal to get people taking photos of houses; particularly houses with character.

 

[An Exception]

Just take the photos, don't cave in to these ranting morons or delete anything. Any trouble or harassment from the people in question then phone the police and let them deal with it.

Sometimes if you behave like an idiot you won't have opportunity to call the police, at least not until after the event.

In the below vid, the scene begins with the photographer striking the biker.
In actual fact you can see (at the very start) the photographer is being manhandled by a couple of guy's and is actually acting in self defence rather than being the aggressor (footage is clearly biased).

However my guess is the photographer informed them of his legal rights, right before he shouted "get the police" and then got his arse kicked.

If he had just been a gentleman, and said ok ladies (who were clearly on a power trip) I'll leave you alone now, and left. He wouldn't be bloodied and bruised, and his camera wouldn't be damaged.

Know if the juice is worth the squeeze...

 

[Energize]

Oh please those programs are so staged...

 

[D.P.]

Sometimes if you behave like an idiot you won't have opportunity to call the police, at least not until after the event.

In the below vid, the scene begins with the photographer striking the biker.
In actual fact you can see (at the very start) the photographer is being manhandled by a couple of guy's and is actually acting in self defence rather than being the aggressor (footage is clearly biased).

However my guess is the photographer informed them of his legal rights, right before he shouted "get the police" and then got his arse kicked.

If he had just been a gentleman, and said ok ladies (who were clearly on a power trip) I'll leave you alone now, and left. He wouldn't be bloodied and bruised, and his camera wouldn't be damaged.

Know if the juice is worth the squeeze...

Quite clearly if you don't want a confrontation the best thing to do is to apologize and walk away but it doesn't mean it is always the best or right thing to do. The issue I have is such attitudes shouldn't become the norm and infringe on my rights.

It is like the bullies that harass you into giving them money to [buy a bus ticket;call for a ride home; buy fags], read as daylight robbery. Sure the safest thing to to is to pay up and walk away but if you let bullies intimidate you and get away with it then they wont learn respect.

 

[An Exception]

Oh please those programs are so staged...

Remember the bigger picture. Regardless of whether or not that was staged, togs (and anyone for that matter), get themselves in deepwater over BS.
I guess it's just Darwinism in action...

 

[An Exception]

Quite clearly if you don't want a confrontation the best thing to do is to apologize and walk away but it doesn't mean it is always the best or right thing to do. The issue I have is such attitudes shouldn't become the norm and infringe on my rights.

It is like the bullies that harass you into giving them money to [buy a bus ticket;call for a ride home; buy fags], read as daylight robbery. Sure the safest thing to to is to pay up and walk away but if you let bullies intimidate you and get away with it then they wont learn respect.

I agree. But I also think it's better to use your head and pick your battles.
I'm not really concerned about the general publics opinions on me taking their picture. Some don't mind, some do. For the ones that do, I leave alone.

When it comes to our freedoms/liberty, I'm much more concerned with the order out of chaos crowd chipping away at them one by one, than if someone doesn't want me to take their picture.

 

[Tunney]

Luckily we live in a world where a tourist can take a photo of St Pauls Cathedral including the surrounding properties and people and throw it on facebook without asking every property owner and every passerby for permission.

It's pretty much impossible for a tourist to take a photo of St. Paul's Cathedral and include someone's residential property in any kind of detail.

There's also a big difference between taking a landscape photo that happens to include someone's house and specifically photographing someone's house.