how do you gain confidence

Some good advice in here, I can be shy, but only in the respect that I'm quiet until I know I can get away with saying crude and offensive things (which is about 90% of my conversation).

Shy people often get intimidated (IME) by the one person in the group that is the loudest and makes sure everyone is listening to them. The fact is that that person is often pretty annoying! When I'm not feeling chatty I'll bring up something that I know will only involve a small group of people in the room, such as PCs, which brings me on to the whole talking to myself thing....


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EDIT - Jesus h christ, this is one long rambling post, just realisedhow long it was after posting it :eek: :D


I used to have no confidence at all when i was younger 15/16, not really sure why as i always have had really good friends around me, and people always seem to gravitate towards me, was what most people would see as a very popular kid, always have been people just seem to like me, but i couldn't see it and had some serious self loathing problems. It so strange that even while in a group of friends you can feel so painfully lonely, but i did for some reason.

Then one day i just sort of woke up and decided i'd had enough and had two choices, either top myself and get it over with or sort my **** out, so of i set on a plan to sort my head out which took me five years to fully complete but my god it worked.

The first stage was to withdraw a little from my group of friends and put myself into a situation where i didn't know anyone, so off i toddled and got a part time job, now within a month i could count almost every single person that i worked with as a mate, i was forced to talk to people i didn't know and although at first it was hard after a couple of weeks it got easier and easier and i was able to talk to people i didn't really know which was awesome.

The second part came a couple of years later and was not intentional, i had for some ungodly reason decide to do maths at a-level, although i was good at it i just didn't enjoy it, and thus did woefully in exams, so i decided to drop back a year because there was no way i could recover from my somewhat dismal grades in maths, did fine in history and Geography but when you come out of your first year with a U in stats and a U in pure you ain't going nowhere. Again this forced me into a group that i didn't know at all, and although all my mates were still there in their second year, i found more and more that i was spending time with the people in my new year as i quickly became friends with many of them.


So over this time i realised that there must be smething good about me if i can make and keep a large number of friends in a very short space of time, of wom many did care about me.

Then i learned another important lesson, that is when it comes to women if you don't bloody ask you don't bloody get, this is where the one regret of my relatively short life lies, there was this girl at school who i fancied the pants off of, now she was stunning, by far and away the best looking bird in the school, we got on really, really well and spent all the time flirting with each other, but i couldn't see past my own insecurities to ask her out, so i let it pass, then sometime later i find out that she really did like me, ad i knew from that point that if it wasn't for my silly insecurities i could have been with her, and still to this day i haven't found anyone who i have connected with in quite the same way, so from then on i decided not to tit about and just ask nextime. :)

Then took a year out , working full time where i worked before but met even more people through that as i was socialising more with people from work and meeting their mates and was generally often in situations where i only knew a couple of people out of a group of 10-15.

Then went to Uni, met more people and again didn't know anyone to start with, moved in with 4 randoms and got on with them really, really well, one is my best mate now, and another is moving in with my and my best mate in July and other people i met around then are still really close mates now.

Then i got the best ego/confidence boost i could ever hope for, i'm most definately no oil painting, but i still got to spend 6 months banging the hell out of a girl who had modelling contracts thrown at her feet, so in conclusion she was fit as **** :D and nice too, but that helped my confidence a lot learning that even if you aint the fittest bloke around if you know how to play to your strengths then you can get women who on looks alone should be well out of your league.

But basically over the 5 years it took me, i just realised and more importantly accepted who i am, i didn't invent a persona or anything like that as that isn't me, may work for others but i know it wouldn't have worked for me.

I am me, i was born me and i will die me, i realised over time there is no point worrying about it, as thats the way it is, there are certain things you can change and certain things you can't, so if anything you can change botheres you then change it, as i did when i lost about 4-5 stone over the last year, going from about 16 stone to 11 stone. But the things i can't channge i have just learnt to accept that they are part of what makes me, me really.

Consequently i don't give two ***** about what anyone thinks of me, because i know i'm an insanely descent guy, i know i have friends who would walk into hell and back for me, as i would them, i know i have charisma and can talk to people.

At the end of the day if there is something about yourself you don't like which you can change then do it, if it's something you can't change, learn to deal with it otherwise it will never go away. ther are always ways round it, i know i'm not what most women would term fit, so i don't play on my looks to get me anywhere, i play on me ability to make people laugh, on my ability to stand by people through thick and thin, on my ability to listen to others problems, and so on and so forth. Just learn to love yourself because i firmly believe that until you can love yourself it is hard for anyone else to do so. I personally think i'm ***** great :D
 
Tommy B said:
Why can't they invent some sort of confidence/anxiety thrasing pill.

Bloody scientists :D
They have - it's called benzoylmethyl ecgonine, if I remember correctly. It's fairly expensive, but I've heard it can work wonders.

;)
 
Alasdair said:
Something to watch about becoming more confident is making sure that it doesn't veer into arrogance. I can be very self-confident, but it can portray itself as arrogance given half the chance.

Arrogance is good.
 
i used to be majorly un-confident. But lately i got sort of sick of it so ive pushed my self into doing things. Just like other people have said. Confidence doesn't find you , you find it. You can't sit around and just hope it happens, have to get out there and make it happen. My next hurdle is self confidence on the ladys side. Just think no lady would ever fancy me or anything like that, but im slowly getting there. Just don't expect anything to happen over night i guess :)
 
Arcade Fire said:
Top Tip: Beer is an alter-ego in liquid form :cool:.
Yeah I figured that out when I was 14 :p
The problem is now I'm more used to alcohol, it doesn't lower my inhibitions much anymore. Also I've known people to use alcohol as an excuse to act all different but it's still not convincing because it's obvious they're just putting it on and they're not really that drunk.
 
I used to be pretty shy, had a couple of good mates that was totally fine around but used to be a bit of a n00b around girls, never wanted to approach them or engage them in conversation, hell didn't have a g/f till I was 18!

Then by a series of circumstances, filling out a bit whilst at Uni giving a bit more self-image confidence, drinking lots and meeting tons of people gave me a bit more people-confidence but was still a bit 'meh' with girls. Didn't help that had an on/off unhealthy relationship with ex I met just before going to Uni. Then in January of my 3rd year at Uni I finally sorted that out and broke it off totally, took a look at myself and went 'DUDE! you're a pussy, stop being a n00b!!'. From the 1st Jan 2004 onwards I resolved to throw caution to the wind and hell, if I wanted a girl you're damn right I was going to get her. That summer pulled what I still consider to be the fittest girl I've ever met...ever since then my thought has been..well if I pulled her, I can pull anyone :D

Since then it's been more of an evolution of confidence, helped by the fact that all my mates have been shacked up with girlfriends so I almost feel like I'm 'flying the flag' for singledom to provide them with entertaining stories of what a laaad gets up to :p Then my best mate from home (a bit of a player when we were at school) split up from his long-term girlfriend last year which he was gutted about..and then the fun really started........

Though sometimes I think I'm avoiding dealing with the fact that I'm gutted about breaking up with the ex, on the other hand it's bloody good fun :cool:

Anyway enough of the potted history :o

I found the best way was to start little - start smiling at strangers in the street or on the train. In bars start engaging people in conversation, it's amazing but the vast majority of people actually quite like conversation and from the most random situations you can find some great people and friends!Genuinely thank people that serve you etc, think about what would brighten up your day in someones position and go ahead and do it! Wear ridiculous hawaiian shirts out, convince your mates to all go out looking comedy and the attention just happens, hell you look daft so what have you got to lose?!

Be happy and confident, go go go wooooooooooooo :D

*edit* And don't forget the High-FIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!!
 
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i'm finding this thread very useful at the moment, as i am going through what would probably be described as a rough patch with myself. you never think it can get worse, and there's still hope but i've learned the hard way that its what you work towards that rewards you. i've got that bad that i've stopped posting on most net forums because of the reaction i might have received from others.

last summer i realised that i had to get more confident as i was going to university, i did everything. spare of the moment, deepend, ego and i had a great time. went to concerts, essex + omgwtfbbq, camping, parties and i thought i'd cracked it. when i got to uni that was it though. i didn't really click with anyone on my course, although i did go out a couple of times with a group i felt like i was just a sheep, no real involvement and i was just getting drunk without really enjoying it. after christmas i just completely lost it. my work slipping, myself getting out of shape, getting worked up at everything and now i find myself hiding away avoiding situations because i really don't feel comfortable with it. i could have had priority at the bbq again this year, the opportunity to meet at essex again. the countless parties i've missed at uni. a wasted double bed and i'm due to finish next week. i need a kick up the backside because i've wasted a perfectly good year, but its not been wasted. i have learned so much about myself and i can improve on it, like i did last summer. just a shame it didn't last

i could write a heck of a lot more, but really there is no reason to. i need to go for a walk to calm down.
 
Don't beat yourself up dude! You have a manly pink sig, that's a start :D :p

I would add as well my job throwing me into court hearings with barely any preparation was a good boost as well, not much room for shrinking violets there! :p
 
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Rich_L said:
Don't beat yourself up dude! You have a manly pink sig, that's a start :D :p

yeah, i really need to change that, getting a bit worn now and there are far better manly pinks out there :p
 
just question your self what afects you in certain situations and try overcome these feelings you get with self control of confidence
 
First and foremost - accept who you are.

I wasn't exactly shy but I wasn't exactly brimming with confidence myself when I was going through my teens (wow, just turned 20 - I can use that term now :p). Anyway, I guess you could say I hated myself. I was bullied at school and had no self-esteem.

When I left school at 16, I went to a local college. I was pretty much on my own as my friends stayed at the school's 6th form. I met a few friends at the college, but my general opinion was that everyone was a swedish banker. I failed my AS levels and the college kicked me out. I remember just feeling like I wanted to give up, nothing was going right for me. My self-esteem took a nose-dive. I remember arguing a lot with my parents and just wanting to move out. Around this time I also got a part-time job at the local Tesco.

I bit my lip and went back an asked if I could attend my school's 6th form. I was let in because my friends who were still there said good things about me. :)
I started 6th form, the whole reason I went to college was to get away from the place because I had a lot of unhappy memories there. Anyway, I had to restart my A-Levels again, so I was pretty much dumped in the deep-end with other people. I got to know a lot of people and got to know my friends all over again (I'd hardly seen them while at college - they'd changed a lot). To the point, where my now best and closest friend was just someone I considered an aquaintance/peer at school. My confidence was growing a lot everyday. When I had my induction for my new job, by coincidence, one of my old friends from school, who I got along with but hadn't seen since leaving school was there too. We both worked exactly the same shift for the 3 years. My job involved me being around strangers a lot every shift and I got to know a huge amount of people who I worked with. I wasn't discriminative to age or whatever, I just chatted to people, got to know about their families amongst other things. I got along with everyone, and the day I really realised how much I'd changed was when someone said something to me about how I'm probably the most confident person they know. It was really hammered home when my Mum told me this. If I was at work and I saw someone new and shy, I'd instiantly walk over to them and get to know them, I'd then introduce them to the other people we worked with. I remember how much I hated being in that position. A lot of the people I worked with, I have become good friends with.

Anyway, two years later and I began looking to going to university and it was quite humbling when everyone were saying how they were going to miss me while I was at university. They made me promise I'd come back in the summer :o (which I am :p).

I started university in summer. I'm 300 odd miles away from home, and well and truely on my own apart from one of best friends who happens to live in a town not too far away (he moved from my home town a year earlier). I started university, and it's incredibley easy just to meet people, especially if you're open. I pretty much figured out who were the asshats on my course within a week and I decided I didn't want to hang around with them and distanced myself.

I've just started a new job that I can do whilst at university, and that's bar work in the student union. I've already got to know a lot of people, and seeing the other new people still struggling to talk to them, it just shows to me, i've come a long way. I only started last friday and I've already had two girls offer to buy me drinks *waves willy* - and that's a great confidence boost. I've been on the frame of mind now, for about a year or so that I honestly don't give two poo's about what anyone thinks about me. If people want to be my friend, I'm there with open arms. If not, it's their loss, not mine.

I guess the icing on the cake for all this was when my flatmate told me that he thought I was the nicest person he's ever met. He considers me his best friend, and he really means it.

In the space of 3-4 years, I'm a totally different person, but I'm also happy that I'm a person I want to be. I also get along with my parents like friends now (I don't know if it's because I'm older or what though :p).

Seriously though, just learn to be happy with yourself and good things will happen. No one wants to be around someone that brings them down. True friends will stick by you through thick and thin.
 
My first real girlfriend ruined me..

I was with her for 3 years throughout school (16-19) and I just became obsessed (like many first-timers do).. I stopped going out, was constantly trying to find ways out of social situations because I found I didn't need to - after all, I'd gotten the girl of my dreams :rolleyes:

Anyway, went to uni and within the first week of the 1st year I was dumped.. this totally ruined me, and it took me about a year to sort my head out, however, this breakup meant that now I REALLY didn't want to go out - I'd lost all my confidence (not to mention the girl), and I just didn't feel like I would be of much use to anyone.. on top of that I was swamped with work, and one of my best friends died. My saviour came in the form of a holiday to Ibiza with the lads..

I went out a bit confused; I didn't know what I was doing there to be honest (apart from drinking, obv!) but I stuck with it, and then one day I fell asleep by the pool, and when I woke up these two girls were laying on the loungers next to me.. I was stunned, for 10minutes I pretended to be asleep hoping they'd move, but being women they didn't.. I just sat up and without thinking I said "Hey, my names Dan.. I don't usually come on holiday alone, but I think i' ve lost my friends, fancy a drink while I wait for them?".. to this day I can't believe I said that.

Anyway, after a week of truly enjoying myself I went home a new person.. saying hello to people who I didn't even know in work.. joking around with randoms in the lunch queue etc, and then sooner or later I got people coming to sit by me; a far cry from the year previous where I'd be very much alone.

The best advice I can give is... go for it; whatever it is. If you make yourself look like a total arse then so what? noones gonna care, and most of the time you won't see that person again.. even if you do, laugh it off :cool:
 
EVH said:
The best advice I can give is... go for it; whatever it is. If you make yourself look like a total arse then so what? noones gonna care, and most of the time you won't see that person again.. even if you do, laugh it off :cool:

Quoted for absolute truth. Life is too short to be pussy footing about. Most of the time, people wont remember anyway. High-five!
 
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