How hard is DCS blackshark

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It's been catching my eye for a while now but how hard is it. I managed just about ok with lomac using just my g13 and keyboard/mouse. Is blackshark ridiculously hard in simulation mode.like it's gonna take me 3 days to learn to hover off the ground.

And final question are there really in depth tutorials that take their time as i found lomac seems to go a bit too quickly for my liking and would i really need a flight stick of some description to get the most out of it.


thanx for any help you can give just don't wanna blow 30 quid if it's too hard LOL
 
I flight sim deserves a flight stick.

Not played the game though, have been tempted like you though.

i was thinking tho wouldn't it require some sort of helicopter stick (do they even exist as you would need to adjust trim and pitch which would require a stick to control some foot pedals and a lever????

my helicopter knowledge fails miserably :D
 
You want a HOTAS for it ideally, Stick and throttle (in the case of Blackshark it'll get used as the collective) unit with twist on the stick for rudder control, HOTAS and Pedals are the best combination.
 
Hands On Throttle And Stick (i.e. off keyboard and mouse.)

Blackshark will take you about 3 days to learn how to hover even with the best flight stick. With mouse and keyboard, a very long time.

In arcade mode it auto-hovers anyway, but that's just not cricket.
 
How hard is it? Well that all depends on what level of knowledge you are at before you start. If you've never flown a study sim before, and don't have any knowledge of military aviation the answer I suspect is very.

DCS and LOMAC are very different sims, LOMAC is a low fidelity survey sim and is primarily about throwing planes around the sky and having fun in a somewhat less than realistic way (basically airquake for the most part).

The DCS series are study sims, as the name suggests in order to play them, you have to study. If as is appears you've never flown a study sim, yes there will be a very steep learning curve. Now the questions you have to ask yourself is are you genuinely interested in learning how to fly a military attack helicopter? Because that's what you'll be doing to all intents and purposes, obviously you don't HAVE to fly using real life procedures and check lists but it is half the fun ;).

Half of the fun for those of us who enjoy study sims is the learning process, I flew Black Shark for around 4 weeks before I even loaded a weapon on to the aircraft, let alone fired one, that's not to say you'd have to do the same. I'd say that starting with minimal knowledge, it'd take you a couple of weeks (assuming at least 2-3 hours a day) to be able to fly a combat mission and not die in seconds).

As for controls, NO you cannot fly with a keyboard. You really do need at least a basic stick, but a full HOTAS + pedals + track IR is the best way. Of course this is expensive, but the thing you need to know about study sims is that if you get into them, it is expensive and time consuming but the rewards are more than worth the effort.

For example, back in 1998 I spent £30 on a sim called Falcon 4.0, nearly 12 years later I still fly it and it's still one of (if not the) the best study flight sims ever, £30 for 12 years of enjoyment find me an FPS etc that offers that value for money.

One thing to remember is that the flight sim community is the most helpful and accommodating of any gaming community, and is always willing to provide help to a newbie. Many people will even be happy to connect in multiplayer and provide some one on one training if that's what you want.

Just remember, study sims are like a heroin, once you start it's almost impossible to stop.

Of course, you could buy it and then fly it in arcade mode, but if you want to do that I'd advise you save your money and go and buy HAWX or a similar arcade game.
 
Hands On Throttle And Stick (i.e. off keyboard and mouse.)

Blackshark will take you about 3 days to learn how to hover even with the best flight stick. With mouse and keyboard, a very long time.

In arcade mode it auto-hovers anyway, but that's just not cricket.

3 days? Are you sure? You can learn in real life in less than 3 hours :confused:
 
I'm very sure. It's actually more difficult in the sim than in a real helicopter (according to my friend, a helicopter pilot!) simply because you don't get the feedback that you do in the real thing. :)

Level flight will be "easy" but to maintain a stationary hover? A lot harder.
 
Maybe I've been wrong all my life, wouldn't be the first time :p, but I thought force feedback was used on compliant joysticks to actually make them harder to operate, for example, if doing a nose dive in a jet, trying to pull the nose up would be physically harder then if at level flight?
 
It entirely depends on the software designer and what they feel the Force Feedback should achieve. As for something getting physically harder while flying in a modern Aircraft, this is unlikely be that case as most aircraft have hydraulically boosted controls or even fly by wire. WW2 aircraft would be a different story altogether.

For example in the Real Black Shark the only feedback to the controls is the trim system, so this is what is modelled.

The implementation of the trim system in FFB actually works quite well, by all accounts, and is very intuitive compared to the Non-FFB trim system.

Nate
 
Anyone know of a demo of DCS blackshark really want to test it out before committing and buying.
 
Hands On Throttle And Stick (i.e. off keyboard and mouse.)

Blackshark will take you about 3 days to learn how to hover even with the best flight stick. With mouse and keyboard, a very long time.

In arcade mode it auto-hovers anyway, but that's just not cricket.

So would you say it's not worth trying with a mouse and keyboard i have a G13 gameboard so suppose i have 70 macro's i can assign would it make it any easier?
 
So would you say it's not worth trying with a mouse and keyboard i have a G13 gameboard so suppose i have 70 macro's i can assign would it make it any easier?

Personally I can't see how it'd be enjoyable at all with Kb+M. If you do want to try it, get the cheapest stick with a throttle you can find. The reason I say this is that if you like the game you'll soon throw away that stick for something better.

Edit:- while the gameboard will be handy, you still need a stick.

Nate
 
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