How long before a limit is put in place?

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I'm really talking in terms of years here, maybe decades. It's quite clear that the population is climbing and climbing, and with advances in medicine there are only so many resources and so much space to go round.

It actually worked in China [and they've now increased the limit from 1 to 2]. How long do you think before we see it in the UK?

I don't think "never" is a realistic answer. Given the growth as it is, the limit will have to be put in place at some point.

I also don't think "well, people are dying too" is a realistic argument since people are living longer now more than ever and medicine has come up with better and better ways to keep people alive.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/nov/06/uk-population-increase-births-migration
 
Few more decades of antibiotics abuse and death will start picking up. :(

Personally, I wish some people would be sterilised, but I don't think any human being has a right to dictate to anyone else.

Also isn't a low birth rate an extreme problem in Europe for most groups, the numbers topped up with immigrants? (eg Italy)
 
I would put in place a limit of 2 children.

I saw some BBC newas article about these food banks they have in place for disadvantaged families and there was one family that had something like 13 children and they were saying how hard it was to provide for their family and keep them fed on low income..... Seriously, if both parents were on doctor's wages they would probably still struggle to bring up 13 children!!
 
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I'd second the notion of 2 children limit, no reason why you shouldn't be able to continue your bloodline, but we're in no need of a population increase.

It's pretty impossible to police though.
 
By promoting the use of contraception, the education & empowerment of women combined with an increased emphasis on hyperbolic/temporal discounting in education should do enough reduce population growth to a sustainable level (as it has in many developed countries already).

Personally until we move away from the idea of nation states with independent leaders we will never improve cultural integration (regarding birth-rates) - for issues like birth control we need to have a earth council (as silly as it sounds) then all agree to implement the above changes to reduce excessive global population growth.

Certain issues such as global warming, antibiotic abuse & population growth are global matters which require a wider perspective than the usual 'send em back' kind of government policy which no doubt will be suggested.

Once a vast majority of the population are having less than 2 children on average really the odd person having six doesn't make any difference.

The problem with any other method of population control is that it raises far more ethical concerns is needed, for birth control - who decides who is worthy?, what do with the children of the people who ignore it (you can't punish blameless children)? - for sterilisation, historically we tend to be pretty specific about who we select, but the problem then arises who is qualified or even in a position to make that call? - nobody in my opinion.
 
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How many modern UK families have more than 2 children anyway ???
I'd say the vast majority do have only 2..? Statistics needed... In b4 race wars.

How long? 50 years. Mandatory sterilization and permits to breed.
 
the world population is rising but will only go so far and stop, Englands population is falling i read. only topped up by immigration.

The whole world on average only has 2 kids, even less in Europe i think. but the population still goes up because people aren't dying as quickly as they used to, but it'll plateau.

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

you can see from the graph population is just starting to dip..

their was a documentary on this too that showed population currently going up due to people living longer even though almost every country has no more than 2 kids as country's push them self's out of poverty..

Historically families would have more kids, in poor country's so help them survive as 3 out of 5 kids would die but when they stopped dying due to hospitals, medication it pushed population up and people living longer but that's changed..

That's the rest of the world though, not this country, the government need population to increase to pay for people living longer in this country.
 
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Isn't the bigger issue for developed countries the increasing age of their populations? Although to be fair the UK government has started to address this by trying to work us to death, as in the future we won't be able to retire until we are in our seventies.
 
Never as we get wealthier and better educated then birthdate naturally decreases. It seems and been estimated that the world population will stabilise around 9billion (10billion being the uppermost estimate) before dropping off slightly.

And why even if it doesn't do we need a cap, we aren't anywhere near such a need. Just look at the diagrams of how big the city would be if the entire worlds population lived in one place, its pretty darn small.
 
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Efour said:
How many modern UK families have more than 2 children anyway ???
I'd say the vast majority do have only 2..? Statistics needed... In b4 race wars.

How long? 50 years. Mandatory sterilization and permits to breed.
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Civilised countries have seen a drastic drop in birth rates, it's the immigrants that have them. :p
 
As many people have postulated, world population estimates generally seem to show a trend of gradual decline in the next few hundred years, after an initial continued spike caused by current lower economic states becoming more developed. With these general estimates in mind, a limit on birthrate may never need to be established.

Having said this, some estimates put world population in 2300 at circa 40 billion, at which rate we will most likely be a world civilization beyond repair.
 
Just something for the OP to consider.

I believe they are also raising it in some parts of China as they have realised at a point in the future the amount of males/females is going to be something silly like 3/1. Due to the preference of families for having boys as their only child.

Giving certain families the chance to have more than one child means that if the first child is a girl it won't be killed just so they can try for a boy. If anything they have realised a major flaw and are now trying to stabilise a decline later on.
 
In terms of the UK start by limiting the amount of children the state pays for when families are on welfare. I'm not talking about all, I'm talking about the families that have no interest in getting a job and then can't get jobs that pay enough to sustain thier larger family of say 3+ children.

e: infact there is an epetition somewhere for this
 
I propose mandatory culling. Start with the elderly, anyone above 80 is being life greedy and so should be culled. Then people who vote Tory, these people are too selfish to provide a positive benefit to our society. Then people who think Ant and Dec are entertaining, these people offer nothing to the advancement of our culture.

Job done. /thread.

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We'll never see a limit, something will wipe out a great number of us in this lifetime, mark my words.

I mean the Tories are already doing their bit, slyly killing off pensioners.
 
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