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How many of you are going to get a Broadwell-E CPU?

Was going to buy Haswell-E when it first came out but put the purchase on hold for a while then just didn't bother. When I last upgraded I hardly noticed any difference (i5-750 to i7-3770K) and nothing at all in games. I use virtual machines but still find the performance of the 3770k and 16GBram good enough at the moment. I've now had it 4 years.

People complain about the lack of CPU development but CPU's are just so much better today than years ago. WHen the Pentium 100 came out for example, within a short amount of time it was too slow. Hard disks needed replacing when a new OS was installed as they too just became too slow suddenly. SSD's are brilliant today.

I might upgrade to broadwell-e which should keep me going for another 4 years or even much longer, I'll wait and see what release day brings. I'll probably keep my current setup too and find a use for it.
 
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^ I'll second what Caracus says.

The constant cycle of upgrades required to meet the rapidly changing requirements of the latest games is what dissuaded many away from the PC platform.
 
Caracus2k said:
Broadwell-e is the same design as haswell-e just on a smaller process - A 'Tick' in the traditional if now broken 'Tick/Tock' Intel release schedule for CPU's

A broadwell-e processor at 4.5ghz will perform pretty much the same as a haswell-e cpu clocked similarly. Ipc will show little improvement due to the design being pretty much the same. Traditionally the 'Tocks' (new architectures) provide the greatest IPC improvements due to their updated designs. The ticks have previously allowed for cheaper manufacture, lower temps at the same clocks and sometimes higher max attainable overclocked frequencies (although this has not consistently been the case recently

Haswell to broadwell (non e) involved a more significant ipc improvement but the architecture changed (l4 cache from Iris pro etc - which is not applicable to -e CPU's)


For Haswell-E to Broawell-E the biggest improvements will be in power usage and heat output. It may overclock differently to haswell-e but we will have to see

In short unless your really need to drop you heat and or power usage Broadwell-e will only being a meaningfull upgrade if you go 'up' the comparable list i.e 6 core to 8 or 8 to 10 etc

5820k to 6800k for example is likely to be a very underwhelming 'upgrade'
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Thanks for going into the detail. Admittedly was not entirely sure how it worked for the E series, but assumed with their being an improvement to the IPC for the Non-E Haswell --> Broadwell similar would apply to the Extreme series. Well in that case hopefully my upgrade itch will be satiated (one can wish :p )
 
Orangey said:
CPUs aren't "better", the rate of change just sucks compared to the 90s.
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Okay, it was a bad choice of word but back in the 90's the rate of change was needed, today not so. We have operating systems and other advanced software that still run well on 5+ year old hardware which was not the case in the 90's. Back in the 90's hardware was behind, now it's not.
Even SSD's of 5 years ago are still mighty fast. Back inthe 90's you also had to upgrade the hard disk often too, mostly for the performance improvements. I remember moving from one OS to another (Win95 to Win98 I think or Win98 to Win2000) and the HD was screaming like a biatch :) while the OS froze waiting for the storage to catch up.
 
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I'm just glad of an actual upgrade path in 3 or 4 years tbh. Honestly thought the X99 was a bit of a dead duck but the 10 core monster will give a nice boost in future (ala X59 and the 6 core Xeon :))
 
It also mentions in that article about Cannonlake (mainstream) moving beyond quad core next year, seen quite a few sites report that now. Could be a good sign that software and games will start to use more cores very soon.
 
If mainstream Cannonlake is over quad core then that will probably be my next upgrade from Haswell. Anything more is overkill for gaming, for the next few years at least. The only game I can think of right now that's starting to push that is Ashes Of The Singularity.
 
I've been considering stumping up for x99 and an i7-5820k as I badly need to upgrade my old Q6600 system. But I'm wondering if I should wait just a bit longer for the i7-6800k. Is it likely to be at around the same general price point as the 5820k once the price settles down after launch?

I'm guessing the performance difference between the 5820k and the 6800k will be relatively small, but since I've waited this long to upgrade my Q6600 should I just hang in there a little bit longer until the i7-6800k arrives?
 
Cern said:
I've been considering stumping up for x99 and an i7-5820k as I badly need to upgrade my old Q6600 system. But I'm wondering if I should wait just a bit longer for the i7-6800k. Is it likely to be at around the same general price point as the 5820k once the price settles down after launch?

I'm guessing the performance difference between the 5820k and the 6800k will be relatively small, but since I've waited this long to upgrade my Q6600 should I just hang in there a little bit longer until the i7-6800k arrives?
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Wait it out.
 
Still not sure, got my i5 2500k @ 4.4ghz and it's fine when gaming but been getting into streaming for a while now and it's starting to show it's age in some high cpu usage games which makes it very hard to stream. Going to hold out I think and see how it performs, if it is an improvement or better than current chips then I may well do so.

I've been very very tempted by the 5820k though but managed to hold off, so waiting a bit long isn't going to hurt.
 
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