How many years wait till a GPU is released for 4K gaming

[chaparral]

If the OP is talking about lowered settings as well, then there is cards out now that can run 4K and I am not talking dual cards

Lowered settings Not a chance

I want be able to buy almost any game and throw all the setting to max and then click PLAY ...
(But happy with just 2x or 4x AA settings )



If I wanted play games with low graphic settings then I would save a packet and only game on a console....

 

[AlamoX]

How many years do you think we going need to wait for a GPU to be released that is going be powerful enough to run the high demanding games at 4K ?

And am only really thinking of todays games that are out now
(God knows what we going to need to run next years highend even more graphic demanding games (That if there are going be any ) )

right now you need at least three high end gpus to have correct 4K , like 295X2+290X would have correct 60fps some games maxed out some others managed setting.
20nm, in 2015 probably able to run 4k with only 2 gpus
16nm, 2016 we hope, could get top end gpu to run 4K

 

[Rroff]

Depends - if your happy backing AA off a bit and consider ~50fps playable its possible to get most current games running ok on a 4K display even with a single 780/290 at fairly high or max settings, might sometimes have to compromise 1-2 fillrate heavy options in some games.

I'm not really convinced by 4K gaming though, some games the UI is just totally impractical to deal with at that scale and others have bigger problems with pointer input and so on. (Though its quite good with other games i.e. racing games where wheel is primary input or elite dangerous, etc.).

Think in the long term I'm gonna stick with a decent 2560x1440 120+Hz panel especially if something non TN comes out that has low input lag, and fast response times/minimal residual imagery issues.

 

[fantasticCG]

The simple answer is never.

By the time a single GPU is powerful enough to drive a 4K monitor the resolution will be obsolete and people will be upgrading to 8K.

+1

Don't think we will ever get there always just out of reach or needing the use of multi gpu setups.
Striving for perfection is an illusion

 

[Kaapstad]

I'm not really convinced by 4K gaming though, some games the UI is just totally impractical to deal with at that scale and others have bigger problems with pointer input and so on. (Though its quite good with other games i.e. racing games where wheel is primary input or elite dangerous, etc.).

Think in the long term I'm gonna stick with a decent 2560x1440 120+Hz panel especially if something non TN comes out that has low input lag, and fast response times/minimal residual imagery issues.

I use a 32" Dell for 4K and don't have any problems with either the mouse pointer or UI. Fortunately I only play games where response time is not important as the spec for my monitor is a slow 8ms.

 

[setter]

Am gussing an easier way to put this would be


1920x1200 needs a single 780ti or 290x

3840x2160 needs ???????????

Doubt if 1920x1200 is much different than 1080? Up until a few weeks ago I ran a single 780 @1920x1200 and it coped grand.

 

[Orangey]

Probably not half as long as the wait for AI has been...

 

[Rroff]

I use a 32" Dell for 4K and don't have any problems with either the mouse pointer or UI. Fortunately I only play games where response time is not important as the spec for my monitor is a slow 8ms.

I find there are quite a few games where its impossible to get the right balance of being able to move quickly and easily between UI elements that are far apart on the screen while also retaining the right level of precision for smaller movement.

Some games are also impossible to get the same feel as on lower resolutions with the mouse input resulting in that you'd never do quite as well in a competitive environment as you would on 1920x1080.

(This will depend a bit on your input setup - people who play with stupidly high DPI mice and used to that will have less of an issue probably).

 

[Panos]

How many years do you think we going need to wait for a GPU to be released that is going be powerful enough to run the high demanding games at 4K ?

And am only really thinking of todays games that are out now
(God knows what we going to need to run next years highend even more graphic demanding games (That if there are going be any ) )

If you refer to single PCB single GPU, and is coming with a minimum 8GB VRAM, and assuming that the specs of the rumoured 390X are correct, possibly in late 2016 (2 years) or mid 2017 (3 years).

However but by then, 4K resolution going to be at the position of the 2560X1440 today, and 8K screens going to be the top of the range.
Already we have 5120x2880 screens announced.....

 

[Judgeneo]

If you refer to single PCB single GPU, and is coming with a minimum 8GB VRAM, and assuming that the specs of the rumoured 390X are correct, possibly in late 2016 (2 years) or mid 2017 (3 years).

However but by then, 4K resolution going to be at the position of the 2560X1440 today, and 8K screens going to be the top of the range.
Already we have 5120x2880 screens announced.....

Indeed, 4K is a big jump from the 1080p standard we have at the moment, the cost is monumental too.
Now that the resolution push has really started, we'll start to see 1440p and 1600p replace 1080p for mainstream gaming, and the ultra-high end people will be talking about whatever resolution that some korean factory just produced.

 

[Wizzfizz]

4k pffff it's all about 8k

 

[Kaapstad]

I find there are quite a few games where its impossible to get the right balance of being able to move quickly and easily between UI elements that are far apart on the screen while also retaining the right level of precision for smaller movement.

Some games are also impossible to get the same feel as on lower resolutions with the mouse input resulting in that you'd never do quite as well in a competitive environment as you would on 1920x1080.

(This will depend a bit on your input setup - people who play with stupidly high DPI mice and used to that will have less of an issue probably).

I really don't have any problems with my mice, it is no different using 1080p or 4K. I don't know much about the technical side of mice but I use Steelseries Sensei ones if that explains anything.

 

[Orangey]

4k pffff it's all about 8k

You jest but 4K panels are under £400 already and 4 of them makes 8K.

Someone on OCN has benched it.

edit: he deleted all his posts? wtf

 

[Quartz]

I am gaming just fine on my Samsung 4k monitor with one 780Ti. Older games like Borderlands 2 can run with all settings maxed (I turn AA off) and more modern games like Tomb Raider run at medium/high settings with AA and TressFX off.

 

[Matson]

Is watch dogs the best example though? it more poorly optimized than demanding in my opinion.

Im running it at 3440x1440 which isn't as demanding as 4k and I get between 25 and 40 fps maxed out with 2 x 290 cards. This is of course in the open world parts and driving. I get much higher fps inside.

In crysis 3 at that res I get about 50-60 fps maxed with no aa. and 30 or so fps with AA cranked up.

If there was a single card that could run that res and maintain 60 fps with max details I would be all over it as Iv come to hate crossfire since so many games either have issues or just don't support it. At least at release anyway and by the time they bring out a profile you've finished the game and don't care anymore lol.

Obviously with old games its fine but new games are only going to get more demanding.

 

[Kaapstad]

You jest but 4K panels are under £400 already and 4 of them makes 8K.

Someone on OCN has benched it.

I don't even want to think what the VRAM requirements are.

I drove 21.5 million pixels on the Titans the other day with BF4 maxed and that used the entire 6gb of VRAM. BF4 is quite light in it's memory needs compared to other games. Something like Watch Dogs could use 12 or 14gb of VRAM @8K as it uses 6gb @4K.

 

[Orangey]

IIRC he got into memory being paged out to disk, slideshow etc.

 

[Rroff]

I am gaming just fine on my Samsung 4k monitor with one 780Ti. Older games like Borderlands 2 can run with all settings maxed (I turn AA off) and more modern games like Tomb Raider run at medium/high settings with AA and TressFX off.

IIRC I can run Tomb Raider with perfectly playable framerates aslong as AA is kept low or off and tress fx off and all other settings maxed (Single 780 @ 1267MHz).

One issue I do find quite bad with the current crop of 4K panels though is the pixel responses and/or overdrive, areas with black to white or grey transitions shimmer quite badly and seem to cause an extra frame of input latency when that happens and areas with high contrast boundaries have bad overdrive artefacts in fast motion.

 

[Gregster]

I did bench 4K on a single card over several demanding games and so long as settings were dropped, it was easy to get the magic 60fps average. I did find 2 cards worked very well with 4K and could run with mostly maxed out settings (slightly lowered AA in some games), scaling was fantastic and was almost 100% in most of the games I tried. I am hoping the same for 3 cards as well when the Acer 4K turns up

 

[smogsy]

your going to 4k again nice!

im tempted also, but Acer is not my favourite brand but its cheap