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How Much Faster (Real World Performance) Is the i7-2600k Over A Q6600? (old quad core from 2007)

Meh, a Q6600 is still a VERY good chip, theres better no doubt but 98% of gaming isn't about the CPU, and a quad core from when single cores were still barely being taxed in gaming is going to last embarassingly(and boringly when you like to upgrade) well :p

In terms of gaming now, always, get the best GPU money can buy/worth the value. IE 2x6870's are faster and cheaper than a single 580gtx, basically get the best your money can buy, and put as much money as possible forwards for the gpu's over other parts as you will see by FAR the biggest performance boost come from gpu's.

Lets say you had £300 to spend today and currently had a 4870/260gtx or something, you could spend £150 on 8gb mem, a 2500k and a mobo, or you could buy anything from a single 6850, to a single 6950 or dual 6870's for £300 and have a FAR faster gaming rig with the old cpu and the new gpu(s).

Is a 2600k worth it, for gaming, not even slightly, there will be few if any games faster on a 2600k than a 2500k, and you're talking 1-2%. The saving is more than worth it, even more so if that extra circa £100 went on gpu's than cpu.

The Q6600 at stock, isn't good enough, at 3.2Ghz, will pass the limit on most old single threaded games, and most newer multithreaded games, if you could hit 3.6-3.7Ghz there would be very very few games that would require more CPU power.

Basically ignore the argueing, give us a clue on how much you can spend, and when you want to upgrade.

For instance, if Bulldozer is good it will either offer an alternative and potentially great value or even better performance, or will at least probably cause some price drops on Intel. If you could wait till March/April, Intel's Ivybridge chips will come out, nothing fancy by themselves but could tank 2500k pricing and 2600k price would certainly drop, probably to within £20 of the 2500k, at which point the price difference makes the 2600k a great choice.

Theres loads of options, personally with a 5850 I'd go with GPU first, I'd maybe try to eek out a few more Mhz from the cpu, and I'd wait a while to see how bulldozer and pricing turns out. Even on the gpu, basically within the next month we should get a lot of great info on the new HD7000 series cards, from expected dates, prices, performance, again you'll looking at, on release, huge cut prices on hd6000 series stuff, potentially awesome hd7000 series cards and just flat out better value for money.

In 2 months theres just no question, everything will be better value due to stuff coming out gpu and cpu. AFter that, rather than go for the top line cpu and highest GPU, go for the next to top gpu/cpu, save a bundle of cash, and you won't notice the difference. 2500k/7950, or a FX8120(cheapest octo core)/7950 is likely to be a ridiculously awesome value computer with great performance in the next 1-2 months.

I have pretty much the same thought. The Q6600 @ 3.6GHz coupled with my newly installed OCZ SSD 60GB is doing more than enough for me. And with the moderately priced/performing H60 cooling solution, I can keep the Q6600 doing 49~52 degree upon loading which I am happy with it. Things is many people myself included, still are curious about the clock to clock performance of the i5/2500K and the 4.4GHz top speed YET seeing what we get from most games having 60+ and even 100+ frames per second, start to hesitate.

I still assume most games first computes the geometries of objects/scenes by the CPU before they are passed to the GPU. So they are CPU limited. It's just that the Q6600 with its horse power can handle it at ease.

If you dig out some old titles like Oblivion and run it on the Q6600 with an upgraded GPU you might notice the difference.
 
no offence but what the hell is wrong with 50 - 60FPS at maximum settings with FSAA, what the hell am I missing? everyone seems so pointlessly obsessed with that little frame-rate counter in the corner, would be surprised in most games if there is a obvious difference between 60FPS and 75FPS to be honest, seems like a bit of a pointless waste of time and effort for a probably insignificant 'actual' improvement (ignoring the FPS counter of course!). :confused:

50-60 fps means that you can't use vsync without dropping to 30 fps (assuming a 60hz monitor). I almost always use vsync because I can't stand tearing, so for me, it's quite a big difference.
 
My parents won't give me the money for a new CPU so I cannot afford current gen hardware. As a result I will pretend it's because I don't see any value.

The last computer my parents bought me was a C64 some 25 years ago.
I think I'm old enough to hold my own purse strings by now (although I DO have to justify it to the wife). ;)

I will though, apologise for my tone in the last posts. It was completely unnecessary and I'll stick to not posting after a few beers from now on. Apology offered to all and Sin_Chase in particular.
 
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I went from a Q6600 runinning at 3.4 ghz to a I5 2500K running at 4.4gh.

Using the same gpu's 2x6850's I wasn't expecting to see much improvement in gaming frame rates but it has made a massive difference. Everything now much seems smoother.
 
I would say that a machine running i5-2500K is a good improvement in real world useage but where i think it really shines is with a SATA3 SSD. I am very impressed with the overall speed of machines from booting up, system response as well as gaming and general useage. It shows a nice improvement over i7 875K and a fantastic improvement over Q9650.
 
I have just moved from a Q6600 to an i7 2600k last night.

I also updated other bits so heres the changes

Old
Q600 @ 3.4Ghz
4Gb Corsair Dominator
Abit ix38 Quad GT
3 x Raptor 74Gb in RAID 0

New
i7 2600k
16Gb Kingston DDR3
Asrockz68 Extreme 4 Gen3
OCZ Vertex 3 120Gb

Before i rebuilt i knocked the Q6600 and RAM back to stock to see if noticed a "real world" difference with the i7.


and Yes I have, in fact its amazing the difference. However I am sure the Vertex and the 6Gb Sata have a major impact on this too, i plugged the Vertex in to the old setup and installed windows before moving and i would still say that the difference between the two is substantial.

Man this thing is fast and quiet.

Anything you want me to try (within reason :))?
 
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Is it worth upgrading to an i7 950 from a Q6600?

If I could get on for £110, would it be worth he extra 25 to get a 2500k? (considering I would need an expensive mobo to go with it, but the matching i7 mobo is quite cheap)

Benefits of 2500k = cooler and less leccy

benefits of 950 = HT + cheaper
 
2500k would definitely be worth the extra, even if you need to out a bit more for the motherboard too. If you get a P67/Z68 motherboard, then it will be compatible with Ivybridge, so there is some upgrade path there.

No point going for the i7 950 as that socket is gone.

Sandybridge is much more efficient clock for clock than the 1st Gen i5/i7 processors, so they will be much faster at stock and even more overclocked. The 2500k should easily hit 4.4-4.5GHz with a semi-decent cooler.
 
Ignoring the upgrade path, the 95 isn't that much slower in games?

I don't upgrade regularly, have had the Q6600 since near launch and mainly game.
 
I think it is safe to say that I won't upgrade in time for using the same socket again.

I have had 775 for such a long time, now its upgrade time and its easier to change socket. I upgrade every 3-4 years?

Will the 2500k socket be around in 4 years or will it be cheaper to change?
 
Well it will be around for at least all of 2012. Depends if Intel want/need to introduce a new socket to replace 1155.
 
Cool, might look into it as the 2500k can be had for £130ish ex vat

I don't get why the 920 D0 seem to OC and have lower temps than the equivalent 950 OC'd and the 950 don't seem to OC as much?
 
I bought MS FSX Gold Edition and have spent the last couple of days playing around with it. I really love it, for many different features it offers.

Yet, on my [email protected] system with a newly bought GTX 560 Ti, it still has a Frame Rate barrier to overcome. With all the graphics parameters set to Ultra High, the system only yields 17~19FPS which is showing the limitations of either the CPU or the GPU.

Last night, I gave the old LOCKON a go, with graphic set to High, it stutters when you have many buildings around.

Both titles are 5 to 6 years old. So I'm just wondering if an i5/2500K will suffice the needs to improve frame rates or I need an i7 for some serious improvement?
 
FSX is highly cpu dependent, from the sound of it LockOn seems similar. You would get higher fps, but realistically you would be paying out all that money for significant improvement in only one or two titles and marginal, if any, in most other games.
 
Both titles are 5 to 6 years old. So I'm just wondering if an i5/2500K will suffice the needs to improve frame rates or I need an i7 for some serious improvement?

1st have a read of these

http://www.simforums.com/forums/setting-up-fsx-and-how-to-tune-it_topic29041.html


http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html


Also no system can run FSX at all ultra settings at a fast frame rate ;)

Also look into better optimised addons for FSX the standard planes and scenery is very poorly optimised that come with FSX as standard.


Also when you find a PC that can have FSX running on all ultra settings at over 60FPS min let me know :p..


Seriously you need to read up on FSX now, there is a lot on the internet and many forums. FSX is not a game really, it's a simulator and requires a lot of time to fine tune it and get yourself a flight stick too and some peddals, you will really love it then. I have been using ms flight simulator from the day it came out on a single floppy disk ;).

It's a hobby you will either love or hate and when you do love it as many of us do, you will be hooked for life. Enjoy mate and don't go too crazy on the settings, no computer for sale to the general public can max that thing out yet.


OHH and FSX is CPU LIMITED not GPU limited... The faster the CPU you give it the better it performs and it loves Mhz so always overclock what you have.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/05/19/real_world_gameplay_cpu_scaling/7
 
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1st have a read of these

http://www.simforums.com/forums/setting-up-fsx-and-how-to-tune-it_topic29041.html

http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html

Also no system can run FSX at all ultra settings at a fast frame rate ;)

Also look into better optimised addons for FSX the standard planes and scenery is very poorly optimised that come with FSX as standard.

Also when you find a PC that can have FSX running on all ultra settings at over 60FPS min let me know :p..

:D I am beginning to realize that actually, ha ha! The more youtube clip I watch, the more I am convinced that FSX very demanding. Also all the wonderful paywares that give you impressive visuals I am quite sure they take a huge system to run smoothly.


Seriously you need to read up on FSX now, there is a lot on the internet and many forums. FSX is not a game really, it's a simulator and requires a lot of time to fine tune it and get yourself a flight stick too and some peddals, you will really love it then. I have been using ms flight simulator from the day it came out on a single floppy disk ;).

It's a hobby you will either love or hate and when you do love it as many of us do, you will be hooked for life. Enjoy mate and don't go too crazy on the settings, no computer for sale to the general public can max that thing out yet.

I do share your views too. We have to sacrifice some settings in favour of the frame rates. As for Joystick, you might not believe that I only have a Saitek Cyborg. I guess I will have a great great system with a chair and dual monitors set up in the garage only if I am going back to my Australia home. For now I have to put up with a relatively simple set up.


OHH and FSX is CPU LIMITED not GPU limited... The faster the CPU you give it the better it performs and it loves Mhz so always overclock what you have.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/05/19/real_world_gameplay_cpu_scaling/7
And that is why I intend to upgrade to i5/i7 and in fact I am reading here and there poking around the forum in search of the answer.

BTW, is i7 2600K a better choice than i5 2500K in this particular case of FSX?
 
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