Yeah got you now, agreed. First quote rang me earlier, will be sending through a breakdown in an email. He suggested doing it externally but think there were internal solutions as well. They can lay, install, terminate (or not) and fill in the holes but will need proper attention to make them look good again.
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Anyone off of the bat recommending external is auto-bin IMO.
What was the price he quoted you in the end then?
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As soon as I need 4 or more connections I'll just fit a switch TBH. Tidier than a bunch of back boxes side by side. Run 2 cables to any given point unless specific uses require more, that's all.
How on earth is a switch tidier than a backbox, it's not a bunch of them either it's a single double gang. It's right next to my 8 plug sockets and looks really tidy.
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4 or more, firstly.
Secondly, I guess having 5 back boxes on the wall can look neat if you prefer that. I prefer less stuff on the wall and more away from it where it can be hidden in a cabinet.
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You realise 4 rj45 modules only takes up a 2 gang box. You don't need 4 boxes.
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The 4 boxes are for your 8 sockets.
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Each to their own, but 5 backboxes on the wall for a TV sounds a tad overkill. It also means you have a bunch of wires training to the wall? I personally prefer to put an 8 way strip on the back of the cabinet; and ergo a switch on the back of the cabinet... then you can just pull the whole thing out to clean and not unplug 12 things.
Ended up getting some electricians to install externally but also got wired CCTV done by them at the same time. Labour was about £600 but obviously this included the extra CCTV work. Very pleased with the external work as they did it very neatly.
Don't suppose they venture London way/do you have a name please?
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It's a lot less than 99% of various quotes I've had recently are anything to go by. As an example, I had 3 quotes to remove and make good a small window on the ground floor of the side elevation of our house. Largest quote was £850, lowest £250. Job took 2 hours so I've no idea what the first guy was thinking.
Spoke to another company who filled me with more confidence than the last. Though he suggested the electrician do the wiring when they do their job, and he will do the rest (terminating, checking etc). Said a 3/4 bedroom house would be up to a day job and be in the low hundreds. But he wanted a floor/network plan first. That next.
This was with Network Solutions Inc Ltd.
Edit - this is not to scale, but roughly on point with proportions/layout. This is the first floor. Reds are current power points with the box room severely lacking, orange is where I think additional power points would help. Guest room and box room will serve as an office each, unfortunately I don't remember the power point layout for the guest room.
So maybe a single/double ethernet socket for the three bedrooms, with the box and guest room having theirs placed where our eventual desks will go?
Reason for a power point on each side is the bed will likely go in-between.
Edit - forgot I need to think about AP placements.
This was with Network Solutions Inc Ltd.
Edit - this is not to scale, but roughly on point with proportions/layout. This is the first floor. Reds are current power points with the box room severely lacking, orange is where I think additional power points would help. Guest room and box room will serve as an office each, unfortunately I don't remember the power point layout for the guest room.
So maybe a single/double ethernet socket for the three bedrooms, with the box and guest room having theirs placed where our eventual desks will go?
Reason for a power point on each side is the bed will likely go in-between.
Edit - forgot I need to think about AP placements.
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I have my 4 RJ45 connections on single gang boxes. Tight squeeze though.
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Yeah ain't no way I am paying £1800 for ethernet drops. I have ran 4 separate locations x2 wires each and I am using one. I imagine eth in every room would be the same situation. Wireless is just too good for 90% of situations.
Maybe focus on TV placement and just chase your own sockets into the attic?
Maybe focus on TV placement and just chase your own sockets into the attic?
I'm almost certainly not good enough to do this. Terminating is something I think I'd enjoy learning but drilling holes, fishing and sealing back up is definitely something I would do badly. Did wonder if I could get quotes just for the cable laying and runs. Will see what the other quotes come in at.
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Fair - and in all fairness, for 2 drops per room - £1800 isn't bad... the materials are dirt cheap but labour is expensive and it'll be a few days work if that includes making it good as well. £1800 is just a lot when you compare it to the benefit, which unless you are running very low latency/sensitive stuff is pretty limited.
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You may find some regular sparkies who are happy to run cable but prefer not to fiddle with termination. That said, I wouldn't expect to save much off the price to leave stuff unterminated. More likely they just see it as a slightly less annoying job than usual.
House purchase moving along, got a second quote (just for ethernet cable runs). Take your seats....
Perhaps a run to the kitchen, 2 x PoE cameras to the outside and 1 run to each floor for the AP backhaul is a more modest solution.
Definitely need a rethink on this. An electrician upgrading single power sockets to doubles and adding more doubles in the upstairs bedrooms is essential. My ethernet kitted house is more of a mix of want/need. I've sent out quote emails to a bunch more local companies.
Perhaps a run to the kitchen, 2 x PoE cameras to the outside and 1 run to each floor for the AP backhaul is a more modest solution.
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