Caporegime
You’ve been done.
Pay it & move on.
Pay it & move on.
Why would the car behind you rear ended you? Surely the driver of that car would have seen the lights and been able to stop even though you couldn’t/didn’t?
pretty common no - someone following too closely , jawing away, gestiulating to their passenger, and you know, if you tapped your brakes they would be sitting next to you ?Why would the car behind you rear ended you?
Best to always reduce your speed approaching lights, I tend to take my foot of the accelerator and cover the brake ready. So in a 40 I probably go through at about 35, I would love to see a countdown timer so you could anticipate better.
It's more like when you did your test and had to react to the instructot slamming his hand on the dash to signal a stop.
Why should lights act similarly when they have a programmed time.
If any part of your car crosses the white line after the light changes to red then you commit an offence. It is highly likely that he, with his far better view, saw part of your car still crossing the line after you stopped looking at the lights. Feel free to appeal though, but expect to lose.
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good idea.Maybe a line on the road, or a completely different colour tarmac would be best. Ie the tarmac for say 35M is red
Wrong, it's your front wheels only.
If your front wheels cross the line when it is still amber, then you're safe.
The offence only occurs if any part of the vehicle proceeds beyond the stop line when the red light is showing.
Since amber appears to be 3s (+/-0.25s) - this seem pretty marginal for a 50mph zone
@50mph you cover 67.5m in 3s (62m in 2.75s)
@50mph stopping distance from (antiquated ?) highway code is 53m 13 car lengths.
In wet condition say, I suspect this will feel like an emergency stop, which I would not expect to have to execute for the lights,
so either you risk running a red, or you proactively reduce your speed in anticipation light will change & well cover the brake.
I had previously logged a complaint about an A10 light with a seemingly small amber period .... with above calculation @50mph I think you could appeal, demand a light calibration check. ?
Are you sure?
I've got this off another site
I drive an articulated vehicle. Quite often, when I approach the lights they are green, but by the time by vehicle is through, they have changed to red. There is nothing I can do because of the length of the vehicle. Why should I be prosecuted?
If the red light is not showing when the front of the vehicle crosses the line, but is illuminated before the rest of the vehicle has passed, an offence is committed. The rules state that it is your obligation as a driver to ensure that the whole of the vehicle can pass on green. If it cannot, you should not proceed.
Utter nonsense, I regularly drive a vehicle in which it would be impossible to control whether or not the back would be through on time even if it had just turned green. Speed limited and very long. I wish people wouldn't quote from random websites.
this is badly worded no ? (the vehicle is across the line) - was the law unclear prior to that(1967)It was held that it is an offence if any part of the vehicle crosses the line when the light is red even though the other part crossed when the light was green.'