How to become a stunt driver?

Booner! · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:22

The_Dark_Side said:
a reality check is the most contructive reply of all.

now i can change my opinion if you can honestly tell me your friend has years of experience, has driven a multitude of different cars, can handle 4wd as well as rwd/fwd (they all require very different techniques) and has extensive experience with powerful cars...otherwise it's all pie in the sky for him.

No, this is why i am trying to set him up on the right path, rather than turn 50years old and realise he can drive a 4x4 up a hill *quite well*

This guy has luck.

This guy can drive.

He also has a motive, which provides his enthusiam for cars and driving. I am just making sure he does put these skills to safe and most like rewarding path to success.

Age is not the factor here, nor experience, he has it all ahead of him, so why not start now

and when (if) you stop treating it as fun and get competitive

Surely that defies the whole point in doing it..as if you want to become good at something you should enjoy it..

MNuTz · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:27

Booner! said:
This guy has luck.

no offence but that was a bad thing to say, people will now use that against you!

Id rather have skill than luck, luck runs out!

Booner! · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:28

MNuTz said:
no offence but that was a bad thing to say, people will now use that against you!

Id rather have skill than luck, luck runs out!

why would they want to use it against me?

You can gain skill...Luck is something which can be hard to come by as its hard to find!

The_Dark_Side · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:33

Booner! said:
Age is not the factor here, nor experience, he has it all ahead of him, so why not start now

without experience you have absolutely no way of knowing if this person is anymore talented than mr smith at the bottom of the road, plus as a relative novice yourself you're not qualified to confidently state what's good and what's not.
example.
i'm not a footballer and i don't watch it on tv or have any interest in it.
i have seen the odd game, but that's about it.
this means my opinion is just about worthless on the subject as i don't truly understand the subject i'd be commenting on.
i'm really not trying to offend or patronise you, but you need to see how the above example also applies to you and driving.
how do you come to the conclusion he can drive?
because he hasn't crashed yet and he can scare the cack out of you?

take him karting and use a stopwatch.
the clock doesn't lie.
if he starts breaking lap records or even getting very close to them then i'll be the first person to hold my hands up and applaud him.

The_Dark_Side · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:35

Booner! said:
Surely that defies the whole point in doing it..as if you want to become good at something you should enjoy it..

it usualy starts as fun then at some point you reach a crossroads where you need to decide if you
A) have enough talent to make it viable.
B) can take things to the next level ie inject more money and devote more time.
C) are prepared to take the chance as even with all the above success is far from guaranteed.

The_Dark_Side · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:37

Booner! said:
You can gain skill...Luck is something which can be hard to come by as its hard to find!

you can gain SOME skill, not necessarily enough though.
you're born with certain inherant abilities and if you don't have the right stuff then no amount of experience/practise will let you go the last mile.

you could take a thousand schoolboys and have them play footie all day everyday...do you think you'll get 1000 Beckhams at the end of it all?
no, probably not even one.

Booner! · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:43

its got nothing to do with me, he just wants to be a stunt driver. His passion to cars will lead him great places eventually.

He has great reactions and timing, he is a pretty good go karter too..

But he wants to learn further skills to add to his already growing knowledge.

Booner! · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:45

The_Dark_Side said:
you can gain SOME skill, not necessarily enough though.
you're born with certain inherant abilities and if you don't have the right stuff then no amount of experience/practise will let you go the last mile.

you could take a thousand schoolboys and have them play footie all day everyday...do you think you'll get 1000 Beckhams at the end of it all?
no, probably not even one.

yet i have lots of friends and not exactly new to being in a car with someone, my dad raced at silverstone etc a while back and used to ride with him.

all im saying is he wants to become a stuntdriver and ASPIRES to become his idle the stig.

For instance, you see gareth gates and will young become famous and they all had idles and made it there in the end

I am not comparing his skills to the stig though, just trying to help him wher ei can to get him as close to that as possible!

The_Dark_Side · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:46

Booner! said:
its got nothing to do with me, he just wants to be a stunt driver. His passion to cars will lead him great places eventually.

He has great reactions and timing, he is a pretty good go karter too..

But he wants to learn further skills to add to his already growing knowledge.

well good luck to him and i genuinely hope he makes a career out of it.

just remember, next time you watch X-Factor...most of the really crap ones are there because they're friends and family all told them how good they are.
the reality of course is what makes us all pee our pants laughing.

Booner! · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:48

I know im treading on your "turf" as a racing driver, i was just expecting more support in the area of actually getting answers and experience from a positive side of things that actually provides some benefit to read.

Not being funny, but I dont want a debate, just answers so Im not going to bicker further as your missing the point of the thread, sorry

The_Dark_Side · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:50

^
becoming involved in motorsport is the best way to go.
the stopwatch doesn't lie, you're either quick or you're not.

Booner! · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:56

The_Dark_Side said:
^
becoming involved in motorsport is the best way to go.
the stopwatch doesn't lie, you're either quick or you're not.

To be a stuntdriver? I would have thought speed helps to a certain degree but speed comes with accuracy and car.

Im talking about actually Stunts and tricks

The_Dark_Side · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:59

Booner! said:
To be a stuntdriver? I would have thought speed helps to a certain degree but speed comes with accuracy and car.

Im talking about actually Stunts and tricks

do you know what autotesting is?

Booner! · 27 Mar 2007 at 01:02

The_Dark_Side said:
do you know what autotesting is?

Driving the car to its limits pretty much

The_Dark_Side · 27 Mar 2007 at 01:03

Booner! said:
Driving the car to its limits pretty much

google is your friend.

Akira · 27 Mar 2007 at 01:26

Booner! said:
Seriously..wtf !?

At least we agree on something.

Let me elaborate. You want to help your mate out, get him a gift voucher for a trackday or something, then he'll see if he really CAN handle a car as well as you think. Coming on here and saying your mate wants to be a stunt driver because he can change gear really quick and scares the crap out of you by 'straightlining roundabouts' in his Daewoo Matiz (ffs) does you no favours whatsoever. Tell him to slow down and channel his energies, when he hits something in that car it's going to kill you both, trust me. Besides, your reply to The_Dark_Side shows you're not at all interested in following up anything anyone here says to you. Had you investigated Autotesting even half properly, you would have seen it is exactly what you're looking for.

Booner! · 27 Mar 2007 at 01:39

Akira said:
At least we agree on something.

Let me elaborate. You want to help your mate out, get him a gift voucher for a trackday or something, then he'll see if he really CAN handle a car as well as you think. Coming on here and saying your mate wants to be a stunt driver because he can change gear really quick and scares the crap out of you by 'straightlining roundabouts' in his Daewoo Matiz (ffs) does you no favours whatsoever. Tell him to slow down and channel his energies, when he hits something in that car it's going to kill you both, trust me.

He hasnt got a matiz, if you re-read the OP i said his previous car. He is now on his 3rd i think, never crashed, but that is why i am scared that he will become too "streetwise" for his own good. Trying to make him aim for something more reasonable.

I dont want lessons in life nor motors, i will come knocking on your door for wisdom when i need it thanks, im doing just fine as a "Kid".

I am merely here to get him the best possible chance of at least attempting to reach his goal.

And yes i have been looking at it and suggested it already, why would i disregard the information presented to me, i took his term and researched it. it was very helpful

silversurfer · 27 Mar 2007 at 01:58

Straightlining a roundabout in a matiz would be relatively easy, it doesnt weigh too much I expect and any bumps in the road would pose more problem then the curve (or lack of) itself.

Even more so its a question of safety really because its a junction(s) with possibly unseen traffic.

Maybe he could become a limo driver for the rich and famous (ie. not hen nights,etc) where they might teach a compromise of safety, safety & security, thats a real skill imo knowing when and where to balance all factors so the race is always finished

Quick try of google for a j-turn course results in :

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:...d*val*+j-turn+course&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk

ThomP · 27 Mar 2007 at 13:25

Booner! said:
Me and my friend were wondering..

How DO you become a stuntdriver?

My friend is a nutty driver and pretty much scares the cack out of me even in his previous Matiz 800cc!

We were discussing the best path to becoming the next stig!

Any experience, help or links?

Hi. My advise is:-

+ Join a karting school, go weekly. obtain a membership pass, Making karting cheap!

+ If he can afford buy something like a 205 GTi, XR2 or similar and do at least one trackday per month. Road trip + camping + trackday weekend = a lot of fun

+ Think about using said car ^^ in competition, Hill Climbs/Sprints is fairly cheap, or rally school or similar. My area has tonnes of said ^^ clubs, who will help you get started and provide free advise.

+ Good luck & its good for him to have a mate like you. Just drive safe bud.

Booner! · 27 Mar 2007 at 13:36

ThomP said:
Hi. My advise is:-

+ Join a karting school, go weekly. obtain a membership pass, Making karting cheap!

+ If he can afford buy something like a 205 GTi, XR2 or similar and do at least one trackday per month. Road trip + camping + trackday weekend = a lot of fun

+ Think about using said car ^^ in competition, Hill Climbs/Sprints is fairly cheap, or rally school or similar. My area has tonnes of said ^^ clubs, who will help you get started and provide free advise.

+ Good luck & its good for him to have a mate like you. Just drive safe bud.

That really helped cheers,

I am looking into something maybe I could buy and we work on it together to make a trackday car.

A.) I would gain valuable experience with cars and how they work!
B.) he could then put some effort into driving in a more suitable environment.