How to find out maximum speed your local excange can support?

Buchanan0204

Buchanan0204

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I would like to find out what my local telephone exchange is equipped to put out. The reason I ask is. I live a town called Kilwinning, Ayrshire. The most anyone has ever been able to receive for years has always been 8Mbps. Until last night when I was in my friends house and did a speed test, they were receiving 14Mb. I couldn't believe it!

I am still only receiving 8 regardless of being with sky broadband on there unlimited package. She does live a little closer to the exchange than myself but not enough for that sort of margin. Is there any possible reason Why I am not receiving the full potential amount.

Her telephone line has been in for years aswell, so nothing to do with new wiring. I have also connected to master socket to see if that makes a difference but the most I get is 8. Other people in my area on various ISP's also only receive upto 8 and never exceeding.

Can anyone shine some light on this for me please.
 
Isn't the max ADSL will connect at 8mbit? So you need to change to ADSL2 for up to 24mbit I think.
 
Buchanan0204 said:
I am still only receiving 8 regardless of being with sky broadband on there unlimited package. She does live a little closer to the exchange than myself but not enough for that sort of margin. Is there any possible reason Why I am not receiving the full potential amount.
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The physical distance from the exchange has next to no bearing on a) the length of the phone line or b) the quality of that line, both of which will have a huge impact on the speed the line is capable of.

If you post the connection stats (line attenuation, noise margin etc) that your router is reporting someone should be able to tell you if they're sensible for the performance you're getting.
 
rpstewart said:
The physical distance from the exchange has next to no bearing on a) the length of the phone line or b) the quality of that line, both of which will have a huge impact on the speed the line is capable of.

If you post the connection stats (line attenuation, noise margin etc) that your router is reporting someone should be able to tell you if they're sensible for the performance you're getting.
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Any idea how to go about obtaining that from a manky sky router... latest generation little black one.
 
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You'd expect a much faster speed on ADSL2+ with that attenuation. Maybe 18mbit at a rough guess.

I know sky used to be slow and awkward to put users on adsl2+ but am unsure about their actions these days. They put me straight on adsl2+ a year ago when I chose unlimited on a new contract.

Maybe you can get guidance on this at the skyuser forum.
 
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Rroff said:
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/WSKIW

Couple of LLU operators tho so possible they are providing higher than ADSL speeds.
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I am with Sky, one of the few providers offering LLU services. My friend who received the 14Mbit is also on the same sky package/contract. So surely I should receive the same or similar speed.

We both signed up for sky within one week apart, so no differences in time or install etc.

Any ideas anyone what I need to do to get 10Mbit plus?
 
Buchanan0204 said:
I am with Sky, one of the few providers offering LLU services. My friend who received the 14Mbit is also on the
same sky package/contract. So surely I should receive the same or similar speed.

We both signed up for sky within one week apart, so no differences in time or install etc.

Any ideas anyone what I need to do to get 10Mbit plus?
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Get LLU or FTTC and be close to an exchange and have a good downstream attenuation or cable if you can get it.

Im on BE LLU service, 333meters straight line distance from exchange, 22db downstream attenuation, I get 19mb obviously with a few tweaks that I have done myself through the ISP an the wiring on my master socket at home

Contract/package is nothing to do with what actual speed you will get, just because your mates on the same package wont mean you will get the same as him. Its all down to the individual phone line, the quality and distance from your exchange
 
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DJMK4 said:
Get LLU or FTTC and be close to an exchange and have a good downstream attenuation or cable if you can get it.

Im on BE LLU service, 333meters straight line distance from exchange, 22db downstream attenuation, I get 19mb obviously with a few tweaks that I have done myself through the ISP an the wiring on my master socket at home

Contract/package is nothing to do with what actual speed you will get, just because your mates on the same package wont mean you will get the same as him. Its all down to the individual phone line, the quality and distance from your exchange
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What do you mean by "get LLU" How can I just get it. I didn't realise it was something I could obtain? I was mentioning the fact we are both on the same package and signed up at the same time to eliminate the fact it has nothing to do with the broadband provider i.e sky. There is obviously something more to it than being slightly further away from the exchange to create a difference of 6Mbps downspeed.

What would I need to do to gain this extra speed, my exchange obviously supports it as does my ISP... what's gone wrong.
 
Buchanan0204 said:
What do you mean by "get LLU" How can I just get it. I didn't realise it was something I could obtain? I was mentioning the fact we are both on the same package and signed up at the same time to eliminate the fact it has nothing to do with the broadband provider i.e sky. There is obviously something more to it than being slightly further away from the exchange to create a difference of 6Mbps downspeed.

What would I need to do to gain this extra speed, my exchange obviously supports it as does my ISP... what's gone wrong.
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If you have LLU services available in your area then you could hop on to a provider like o2 or sky and get potentially "up to" 24mbps, dont get it confused with an ADSL Max connection which is up to 8mbps, LLU means Local loop unbundled which means the provider hosts their own kit in the exchange rather than using BT's

Best thing to do really is put your details in here, go the LLU page and post what LLU services are available to you

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/broadband_checker
 
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DJMK4 said:
If you have LLU services available in your area then you could hop on to a provider like o2 or sky and get potentially "up to" 24mbps, dont get it confused with an ADSL Max connection which is up to 8mbps, LLU means Local loop unbundled which means the provider hosts their own kit in the exchange rather than using BT's

Best thing to do really is put your details in here, go the LLU page and post what LLU services are available to you

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/broadband_checker
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Thank's for this. Like I have already pointed out a few times now. I am already with sky, They do provide an LLU service in my area, as referenced by samknows and also by the fact my friend is obviously utilising this technology as she is on 14Mbps. I have pointed this out several times, we are both with the same ISP (Sky) and we both are on the same exchange in same area.
 
Sky will probably run both ADSL MAX and LLU connections on an exchange that doesn't have WBC/21CN provisioned. Often they will start putting new customers on LLU at a certain point but not migrate older customers on ADSL MAX over unless asked.
 
#Chri5# said:
Is this your Exchange OP?

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/WSKIW

I see Sky has LLU'd the Exchange, but don't know much abou they configure their equipment.

Is your router set to use ADSL (G.992.1 / G.992.2)? Is there an option to set it for 922.3/45 (ADSL2 / ADSL2+)? Or may be your account isn't allowed to go above 8Mbps?
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It is indeed my exchange. I had a look in the settings page, can't seem to find anything on that. I have been looking at a way to extract the username and password from there router which they hide so well so I can use my own and hopefully that may help. Thank's for the tips though
 
I have made a new discovery after scouring sky's website. I logged into my account section and realised I am being restricted to 8Mbits. I have no idea why. They told me I would receive the 10-20 speeds and yet restricting me to 8. Here is a screenshot of the page. I have contacted sky regarding the matter and I await a response. Can anyone on here work out why I would be capped. According to a post by one of the members above, he tells me my line attenuation and noise margin is capable of adsl2+ speeds no problem.

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