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"How To" Get Raptr Recording Performance With Other Programs!

shankly1985

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Noticed something tonight with MSI Afterburner.
You can now add in your own Encoder for use with Afterburner. So I thought what about AMD's Stunning VCE Encoder this Encoder is used in Raptr. It allows you to encode the game on the fly with an AMD GPU to give the end user superb performance when recording games.

So I benched two games so far, one run using Raptr and other with AB both using VCE!

Tomb Raider
Afterburner - Min 52 - Max 96 - Avg 71.6
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Raptr - Min 50 - Max 90 - Avg 65.7
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Hitman Absolution
Afterburner - Min 52 - Max 96 - Avg 64.6
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Raptr - Min 52 - Max 102 - Avg 65.8
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Msi Afterburner Settings
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What are the Plus and Minus of doing this?
+Use VCE with Programs like Dxtory, Msi Afterburner to dig deeper into there rich settings.
+Better performance when using other programs like Dxtory
+More flexibility not locked down to one program
+did I mention freedom?

-Without Raptr you loose Mantle recording
Anything else?


"Notice"
Single 290
i7 2600k @4.4
Both Programs had settings matched
Recording driver is 5400rpm drive so expect some performance loss.

http://developer.amd.com/community/blog/2014/02/19/introducing-video-coding-engine-vce/

Will add Dxtory later.
 
Try Mirillis with it's AMD app recording mode too for the sake of science :)
Do either of the above disable xfire when recording?

ED: Sorry to be a picky sod, but seeing the video quality in motion tells us more than screenshots. Do appreciate the effort though :)
Also, what was the performance hit and filesize comparison?
 
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I will upload the video to youtube tomorrow and will also see files sizes.
I wasn't running crossfire atm only have one GPU in my system.
 
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Tomb Raider file size - Raptr - 229mb 1min 11secs - MSI - 329mb 1min 15secs

Hitman - Raptr - 336mb 1min 08secs - MSI - 289mb - 1min 24secs
 
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After a bit of testing, it seems that Mirillis puts out noticeably better quality vids at similar file sizes.
If I cba, I'll put up some comparison vids tomorrow, either straight DL, or uploaded to YT and we'll see how badly it screws them.

Still, you do have to pay for Mirillis after the 30 day trial, so there is that :D

Either way, nice find and to answer my own question: No, AB doesn't disable xfire when it records. That's just something I found when trying OBS capture.
 
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Uncle Petey said:
After a bit of testing, it seems that Mirillis puts out noticeably better quality vids at similar file sizes.
If I cba, I'll put up some comparison vids tomorrow, either straight DL, or uploaded to YT and we'll see how badly it screws them.

Still, you do have to pay for Mirillis after the 30 day trial, so there is that :D

Either way, nice find and to answer my own question: No, AB doesn't disable xfire when it records. That's just something I found when trying OBS capture.
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Yeah the paying for Dxtory and Mirillis I should put the under one the minuses.. You do get what you pay for with the programs though and if Recording is a day in and day out thing someone does paying isn't the bad option.

Another thing to point out, MSI AB now supports replay feature thats found in Raptr and ShadowPlay.
 
I can only record using the amd raptr app with 10mb/s at 30fps(720) otherwise the in game fps takes a nose dive.
heres a video on hainan.
youtube ****s the quality even further so im wondering whats the point in recording higher quality?
 
Youtube changes its stock quality based on the quality and format you give it.
This is why everyone's uploads can look much different.

I not tried bf4 with Raptr for sometime now but tomorrow I'll make sure I jump on and get some footage for testing..

Here what raptr on csgo looks like with max recording settings
Raptr 60FPS test - CSGO - Inferno ACE!: http://youtu.be/fGB86BNtd2o

And here what msi afterburner with AMD VCE looks like, I find raptr is much better even though performance is very much the same.
CSGO - Train - ACE! 60fps: http://youtu.be/JM-JcHOC75o

And last here is some mantle recording with Raptr on plant vs zombies garden warfare
Raptr - Mantle Recording - Plant Vs Zombies GW 60…: http://youtu.be/2k-WHzM-TLI
 
The bit rate on my video aftert upload is between 3-4mbit and the original is 10. I havnt changed the format its literally whatever raptr throws out.
I used to get much better results using dxtory. Let me know how you get on recording in bf4.
I noticed in your videos they look better but the game is much slower. When im driving round its a blurry mess.
 
I have a Mantle and DX11 Raptr Recording uploading once they finish processing later I'll post them here.

I started off with Mantle, and one thing I noticed/forgot about his the crazy amount screen tear that shows up on the recording.. So after 10mins recording that, I thought i'll jump back in again with Mantle but this time enable Vsync..

Nope! Still crazy amount screen tear, This something the Mantle recording needs to work on because the performance and IQ is something special..

So in the end I had to switch to DX11 to get footage you can see better without having to deal with screen tear..

You see what I mean once I upload the Mantle Footage, first DX11..
 
shankly1985 said:
I have a Mantle and DX11 Raptr Recording uploading once they finish processing later I'll post them here.

I started off with Mantle, and one thing I noticed/forgot about his the crazy amount screen tear that shows up on the recording.. So after 10mins recording that, I thought i'll jump back in again with Mantle but this time enable Vsync..

Nope! Still crazy amount screen tear, This something the Mantle recording needs to work on because the performance and IQ is something special..

So in the end I had to switch to DX11 to get footage you can see better without having to deal with screen tear..

You see what I mean once I upload the Mantle Footage, first DX11..
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I get the same. it needs to be sorted.

weldon855 said:
I can only record using the amd raptr app with 10mb/s at 30fps(720) otherwise the in game fps takes a nose dive.
heres a video on hainan.
youtube ****s the quality even further so im wondering whats the point in recording higher quality?
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Road-kill montage, brilliant :D
 
Here is DirectX 11 footage, I can see the same amount of blur you taking about in this.

Raptr - Battlefield 4 - 60fps - DirectX 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-5sNvQAkas

Edit
Just looked at the Raw footage and the Blur isn't there.. So not sure what YouTube is doing here with BF4 footage? Other games so far have been fine.. Will see how the Mantle footage turns out, if you can ignore the screen tear.
 
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shankly1985 said:
You can see the difference here from Raw to Youtube..

open image in new window or Tab and flick between them.

Youtube

Youtube img link

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Raw

Raw image link

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Fixed that for you shankly. ( links added so people can just middle click to open in a new tab in most browsers, rather than using spoiler tags and having to open spoiler, show properties, open new tab, copy and paste URL.) :D:p:D
 
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